EPTI assume for a 'protect the ADC' comp Deathcamp would be better than Echo right?
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geript
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I assume for a 'protect the ADC' comp Deathcamp would be better than Echo right? | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
But I don't think Deathcap before Echo would ever make sense for Lux at the current time. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Not sure how useful. Apparently its almost impossible to do it reliably. Certainly hilarious though. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
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Uldridge
Belgium4985 Posts
On March 14 2015 17:54 geript wrote: Can Lux replace Lulu in the Juggermaw team comp? You lose the speed boost. The shield is roughly equivalent. You lose the wild growth for CC and hp. But you gain more long range CC, poke and wave clear. I assume for a 'protect the ADC' comp Deathcamp would be better than Echo right? Everything you just said about Lulu is why the Juggermaw works. The shield on Kog (ap damage+ %health damage + ad damage) + the speed + the wildgrowth if needed are all things that make a hypercarry even more hyper. Lux doesn't add anything to that except the shield you've mentioned. Lux is best in a siege or maybe a pick comp, but for the pick comp to work the vision has to be excellent. Yeah I went and tried to do it in customs today the way the guy suggests to do it, I got it to work once out of like 15 tries. So sad. There's another youtube vid where he explains it. He basically said you have to put your secondary flash key near your first, and then spam them once you do it. He then said this way it becomes 100%. It might be useful for some kind of juke/outplay kind of thing I guess.. | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/yCFOcyf.png) Two builds seem to stick out: Scaling AP runes with Mejais rush into lots of AP items delaying CDR until 3rd or even 4th item OR the more standard early Morellonomicon. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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ConanTroutman
Canada67 Posts
I personally have had great results with working it into my builds. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Do I have to do this. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
For Lux at least, he says that you can't buy Ludens because it delays your primary damage items, which he lists as Deathcap and Void Staff. His reasoning is sensible. However, the problem is he has ignored the math, which shows that Ludens Echo does more damage than Deathcap. When he talks about Nidalee, again he says "what ends up occuring is you get Deathcap and then get Zhonyas blah blah", ignoring the fact that Ludens does more damage than Deathcap. He also says movespeed isn't a useful stat when sieging, which is LOLOLOLOLWTF. It's just LS talking out of his ass, like he usually does. I even replied to the Reddit thread for you: http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2zzz58/a_look_at_ludens_echo_and_why_it_has_no_place_on/cpo2h9v | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
It's not even remotely true. So, LS is dumb, nothing is new. Lets move on. User was warned for this post | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On March 24 2015 02:40 Ketara wrote: The problem with his Nidalee review is that he said that Deathcap outdamages Ludens on Nidalee, which is not true. It's not even remotely true. So, LS is dumb, nothing is new. Lets move on. Nidalee has 6(!) skills that scale off AP, Ludens over Deathcap is straight up silly on her. Hell, if you only value damage Lich Bane would be better than Ludens, she's not only about throwing spears anymore. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
On March 24 2015 05:14 Velocirapture wrote: I would just like to clarify that it is never a matter of luden's OR deathcap, it is a matter of hitting timings for each. After playing dozens of games with echo I maintain that Lux is the only champ in the game who should rush it. Just like champs that rush hourglass, such as morgana, you can only stray from an early deathcap build if the utility has some special synergy with the character. I can definitely understand the matter of timings, if it's possible to waveclear an item earlier for instance which from what I can gather is the case with Lux.  Something completely unrelated. Is there really nothing to do than being a scaredycat vs a Syndra? Have found myself often having to use ult just to save tower super early. In the few games I've had this match up it've always felt like I got smashed and my only redeeming factor was if I could land better snares and shields than her stuns later in the game. :'-( | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
Long story short, it is a jungle match-up if they are really good and an outplay match-up otherwise. | ||
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lastshadow
United States1372 Posts
On March 24 2015 02:40 Ketara wrote: The problem with his Nidalee review is that he said that Deathcap outdamages Ludens on Nidalee, which is not true. It's not even remotely true. So, LS is dumb, nothing is new. Lets move on. http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/304ey8/ludens_echo_round_2_the_mathematics_inven_post/ Yes hi. I guess if being dumb means being held in high regard by most people important and making the money I do, then by all means sign me up. I must surely put David Blaine to shame with all the pros and teams I've pulled a trick on too yeah? Ah yes *ahem* and btw, Nidalee does deal more with DCap over Luden. If you asked me what bottoming felt like, I would be unable to tell you, however I'm sure you could now tell me. Ignoramus User was warned for this post | ||
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