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The reason why you don't feel comfortable trading at 3 is because you don't get W at 3.
You can either get 45 more damage or 180ish shielding at 3. You'll trade a lot harder at 3 if you get the shield and use it to get right in the other guys face and trade autos with him.
You'd think 2E at 3 would be more mana efficient, and if you stayed at 3 for 10 minutes it would be, but the reality is you are only going to cast E like twice before you hit 4. Better to get W and be aggressive. After you hit 4 you go back to passive harass.
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Australia18228 Posts
On Lux vs Diana matchup: - You needa punish her a lot more at level 1. Starting Q on Diana in a ranged matchup is just asking to get zoned at lv1. Pre-6 she should never be able to walk up to the wave without her W on. When she does walk up, just keep auto-attacking her (but don't miss CS). Your W will mitigate her Q and minion damage so you can keep harassing until her shields gone then punish her with Q/Es if she's comes back to farm with her shield on CD. I think you got this part later on in the matchup but you had already given her so much farm - When Diana gets Negatron, her laning becomes so much easier so it's not surprising you couldn't bully her anymore. I think after that point, you just trade farm which is a good situation for Lux. - Post-6 I don't think you should walk into Diana ult range without Q up. But there wasn't much you could've done in the ganks, you just need more wards in the river which you need your Jungle/Support for - There was a point where you were level 6 vs level 5 Diana. At that point, you should've zoned her off the entire wave until she leeched enough for her ult but you let her walk up to the wave and missed your ult. In general, you gave her way too much room to farm in that lane
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Disagree with the zoning at level 1/2 bit, you will get absolutely destroyed by minion damage if you spam autos on her. I agree with that jungle/support should have placed more wards, but when they don't place them you have to play around that as well.
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Australia18228 Posts
When she's walking into the middle of the wave like that, you can harass her. Not going past the wave just to autoattack her
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+ Show Spoiler + Anal-yze me boys. Except for the parts where I randomly died 1v1 vs LB, I know that was pretty retarded on my part.
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Australia18228 Posts
- I think you played the lane fine (other than than FB). That LB wasn't that good, took so many bad trades but got bailed out by that Naut gank. - Rather than trying to Q predict her distortion, you can W her combo then use your spells after to abuse the fact that her W is down. But you can't really do this when LB gets fed like that. - You don't have kill pressure anymore when she's that fed so try combo her so she's low. It'll force her to back or risk all-ining at low hp which gives you more room to farm. - I think LB screwed up once she started shoving and trading farm. She could've zoned you a lot more and started tower diving with Naut or Wukong - Might want to run MR runes/Barrier against LB - You really need to buy pink wards when they're invading your jungle like that - Teamfighting was fine but you kinda got carried by your team there.
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On February 10 2016 23:09 Inflicted wrote: - I think you played the lane fine (other than than FB). That LB wasn't that good, took so many bad trades but got bailed out by that Naut gank. - Rather than trying to Q predict her distortion, you can W her combo then use your spells after to abuse the fact that her W is down. But you can't really do this when LB gets fed like that. - You don't have kill pressure anymore when she's that fed so try combo her so she's low. It'll force her to back or risk all-ining at low hp which gives you more room to farm. - I think LB screwed up once she started shoving and trading farm. She could've zoned you a lot more and started tower diving with Naut or Wukong - Might want to run MR runes/Barrier against LB - You really need to buy pink wards when they're invading your jungle like that - Teamfighting was fine but you kinda got carried by your team there. Yeah it was pretty unlucky that I went full retard at the first Wukong gank and I didn't see Naut coming at all. After the Naut gank I think I was 1/2/1 right? and she was 2/1/0. I was like "she cant kill me in one combo right" but then she could and I officially lost lane. At that point I just started AFKfarming. I agree that I should try to combo her so she's low, but I also feel like if I use my spells she can just allin me at will too. I don't have that many runepages for mid so that's why I didnt run MR ^^. I usually like Heal even in Ignite matchups for the speedboost, but I'll try Barrier. I'll also buy some pinks next time, but I felt it was pretty useless since we couldn't defend them anyway. And then we randomly won.
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Always gotta run MR blues against a Leblanc.
The range on her dive is long enough that she can get to you if she really wants to, you have to be able to use your shield to survive it.
I agree with whoever that the way to play is to hold Q+E, wait for her to engage, reflexively shield and then combo when her spells are on cooldown. MR blues + Athenes first item and your shield will absorb a lot of her damage, while one successful combo is all you need to cripple her ability to be aggro in lane. Once she can't be aggro you can poke her down with E and get an advantage.
LB used to be scary when she silenced because you had to be super tight with your shield timing to block her damage. Now she's really pretty easy if you play the lane the right way.
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I've been doing fine the 2-3 times i've hit an lb, just running 6 cdr/lvl runes and 3 flat mr runes.
The only mildly scary part is having to dodge her chain if she wqe or wqre's you, but that's pretty trivial in the majority of situations. Unless she starts getting overly fed, it felt like I could just control the creep wave and trade way more mana efficiently then her, up until the point where i had enough ap/cdr to just e-ult the wave whenever she started gaining lane control.
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
Pretty gratifying yesterday to see a correct Lux build in LCS (i.e., Void Staff before Rabadon's).
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
You also get to see RF Legendary on Malphite get fed and build Swifties -> Spectre's Cowl -> Bami's Cinder -> Spectre's Cowl -> Sunfire -> Glacial Shroud -> Iceborn Gauntlet ...
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