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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-01 20:24:13
December 01 2012 20:23 GMT
#41
Diana's Q does not reveal stealth. Please play the match up.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
December 01 2012 20:31 GMT
#42
Can someone clarify Lunar Rush for me?
I just watched a game in which a friend of mine used Lunar Rush and Crescent Strike at the same time. The dash brought him to the target first and then Q hit, refreshing the cooldown. I could've sworn the target has to already be affected with the debuff for R to reset?

Or is this a bug that many a Diana player has been able to take advantage of.....
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 01 2012 20:34 GMT
#43
Diana's R has a grace period (I would say around 0.1-0.2 seconds), different from (say) LeBlanc's Q and Cassiopeia's E. You can land your R slightly before Q lands and still get a reset.
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 01 2012 22:57 GMT
#44
Her Q doesn't reveal O_o

Well then. I must have just had vision from Akali attacking. It always seemed like it revealed.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 01 2012 23:57 GMT
#45
On December 02 2012 07:57 Bladeorade wrote:
Her Q doesn't reveal O_o

Well then. I must have just had vision from Akali attacking. It always seemed like it revealed.


Currently there are only 6 champions that can reveal stealth units such that they can be targeted by autoattacks/targeted spells. Caitlyn (W and R), Lee Sin (Q and E), Nidalee (W), Lulu (E), Twisted Fate (R), and Rengar (R).

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth#Invisibility_detection
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 01 2012 23:59 GMT
#46
On December 02 2012 05:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can someone clarify Lunar Rush for me?
I just watched a game in which a friend of mine used Lunar Rush and Crescent Strike at the same time. The dash brought him to the target first and then Q hit, refreshing the cooldown. I could've sworn the target has to already be affected with the debuff for R to reset?

Or is this a bug that many a Diana player has been able to take advantage of.....

It's not a bug. As long as Q does damage before R does damage Diana's R will reset. The issue is that Diana's Q does damage immediately upon impact whereas her R has a tiny delay between Diana dashing to the target and R actually dealing damage. This makes it so if you cast Q+R at the same time your Q will hit before R damages your target.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35157 Posts
December 09 2012 16:38 GMT
#47
So, I don't usually get mid so I haven't had much time to tinker around in S3. When have people found to be a good time to upgrade guise? Right away? After Abyssal/Zhonya?
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
December 09 2012 17:51 GMT
#48
On December 02 2012 08:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 07:57 Bladeorade wrote:
Her Q doesn't reveal O_o

Well then. I must have just had vision from Akali attacking. It always seemed like it revealed.


Currently there are only 6 champions that can reveal stealth units such that they can be targeted by autoattacks/targeted spells. Caitlyn (W and R), Lee Sin (Q and E), Nidalee (W), Lulu (E), Twisted Fate (R), and Rengar (R).

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth#Invisibility_detection


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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 18:26:16
December 09 2012 18:25 GMT
#49
On December 10 2012 01:38 Gahlo wrote:
So, I don't usually get mid so I haven't had much time to tinker around in S3. When have people found to be a good time to upgrade guise? Right away? After Abyssal/Zhonya?

I don't finish it until after those two, like a late game last upgrade. I find getting the active from zhonya's and the MR Reduction /resistance from Abyssal is more important than Liandry's passive.
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Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
January 18 2013 02:32 GMT
#50
So, I was thinking of buying Diana to play as jungle and sometimes mid. How is she now, especially after the recent buff to ap SS?
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 18 2013 02:49 GMT
#51
You dont build the AP SS item on Diana. I run 9/12/9 masteries an AP quints and blues, AS Marks and armor yellows.

Start with shield do wolves then blue, best in jungle if you dont have someone mid that needs blue so you can QR to creeps after 6 saves a lot of time. Spend a good amount of time farming early unless some lanes really push hard. I level WQWE but taking E at 3 if you see an opening can be a good idea, be flexible.

Generally you want to lead ganks with QR but its okay to R in if you just need ot lane E to guarentee a kill. Before 6 your ganks consist of walking next to your opponent and pressing E. Its good if you can get close enough.

I start machete +5 but I generally dont build machete into anything. I prefer going Sorcs -> Guise and then from their get a negatron or chain vest depending and rush either abyssal or zhonyas. You clear jungling incredibly fast so always clear never not clear, don't try and force ganks just farm and gank if nothing is up unless you see a huge opening.

Hopefully some laners let you feed off their farm but a lot of people in solo que are queer about that so just mute them and do it anyway. You really want a build of like Abyssal, Zhonyas, Sorcs/Mercs, GA, DCap, Liandrys. Liandrys being built last as it isnt that great on her unless you end up getting into a lot of poking situations in which case Diana has good poke with Q so Liandrys before Dcap can work.

I have been messing around with IBG and its cool but idk if its great.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 03:20 GMT
#52
Did Riot fully revert her W's range? Or is it still a nerfed version compared to release?
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Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 18 2013 04:57 GMT
#53
It seems to me its fully reverted and they just worded it to make it seem like a nerf still.

I now have no trouble popping W if I am meleeing
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 18 2013 05:09 GMT
#54
On December 02 2012 08:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 07:57 Bladeorade wrote:
Her Q doesn't reveal O_o

Well then. I must have just had vision from Akali attacking. It always seemed like it revealed.


Currently there are only 6 champions that can reveal stealth units such that they can be targeted by autoattacks/targeted spells. Caitlyn (W and R), Lee Sin (Q and E), Nidalee (W), Lulu (E), Twisted Fate (R), and Rengar (R).

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Stealth#Invisibility_detection

Of those champions, only Lee Sin and TF have an on demand stealth detection. Which is why most people say that Lee is a counter to Akali. TF probably falls under the category of squishies without escapes that can easily feed an Akali.

Generally when I lane against Akali, it's in top, and I get vision wards. It's not cost efficient to have to trade like that since it's 6 creeps wasted every time but it's better than dying or constantly getting pushed out of lane and losing tower.
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GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 18 2013 05:12 GMT
#55
Man, my favorite champion is strong again! I feel so happy :3
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 18 2013 09:25 GMT
#56
On January 18 2013 13:57 Bladeorade wrote:
It seems to me its fully reverted and they just worded it to make it seem like a nerf still.

I now have no trouble popping W if I am meleeing


w00t. Time to play her again.
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HolyToss1911
Profile Joined May 2007
354 Posts
January 18 2013 23:31 GMT
#57
On January 18 2013 14:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Man, my favorite champion is strong again! I feel so happy :3

Just played a game with her last night and went 28/10/15 but I'm lost about what to build now.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35157 Posts
January 19 2013 07:50 GMT
#58
On January 19 2013 08:31 HolyToss1911 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 14:12 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Man, my favorite champion is strong again! I feel so happy :3

Just played a game with her last night and went 28/10/15 but I'm lost about what to build now.

I think it's same stuff as before, dumping guise later for Void Staff.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35157 Posts
February 05 2013 20:24 GMT
#59
Been thinking about, if they don't get too much MR, picking up Rylais and finishing Liandry lategame. You'd only be 200hp down if you went Mogs/Void, but you'd have +70 AP, Liandry Damage, and the utility from the slow. Might allow you to pick up some of those QRs that you used to be able to make before the nerfs because of the slow.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
February 07 2013 01:48 GMT
#60
Really liking Rylais and Liandrys as well. Health always nice, and the slow and burn are pretty good to have. Just need to get used to dealing with her laning (mostly ap melee trouble in general).
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