[Discussion] Season 2 Masteries - Page 4

On November 15 2011 00:35 bobwhiz wrote:

In season two we have new masteries trees. I can't help but think there will be some abuses of the mastery tree. Take for example this scenario.


One person runs
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-3-3-0-4-3-2-1-1-0-1-3-3-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0
Super tanky, especially for siege commander. (They go surge heal, or something to that effect)

Four people go AD (I wonder whether surge will stack, one goes surge-promote, the rest go surge heal, or everyone could go teleport surge or something like that)
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-0-0-4-0-1-4-1-0-3-1-0-0-3-0-1-1-0-3-0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

You group up and press one side hard with surge (defensive guy tanks), promote and your tower attack masteries. If your opponents are sloppy in defense you may even get ganks.

You then retreat to nearest bushes and teleport to your ward on the other side of the map and press two towers in a row with super tank.

I think the game will be super mobile.

What team strategies are you thinking of?






Btw
What I expect a lot of jungle masteries to look like:

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-2-0-2-4-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-2-0-2-1-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-2-0-1-3-0-1-2-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0

On November 15 2011 00:43 Butterednuts wrote:
Support is going to be so good with these new masteries.

On November 15 2011 00:52 Mogwai wrote:

not really. utility tree looks like garbage compared to the other trees right now. The other trees gained a ton of value while utility just forces you to put more points into masteries to get a lower benefit. Like, w/e yo, you get 2 gold/10 to start now, la-di-freakin'-da, you had to dump 4 points into it. You're now forced to get extra flat mana (zzz) in order to get meditation, which also now conflicts with getting the movespeed mastery. Also, Awareness and CDR mastery and now fighting with each other too. You need so many fucking points just to get the sorts of stats you could get before and for what? 5% increased sight range on wards? The ability to start with 40 more gold and 1 more gold/10? I mean, really? You're really going to say they're the ones who got the buff and not the fucking AD assholes who now get a free 10% ArPen? Or the tanks who now get 10% CC reduction that will stack with tenacity? Gimme a fucking break, utility got butchered in comparison.

On November 14 2011 15:45 Navi wrote:
offense tree is so much better than b4
lethality and deadliness' gold values have gone up a bunch, and that 10% arpen is gonna be sweet

On November 14 2011 23:36 Sabin010 wrote:
I can still see 21 utility being stong on junglers. The gank xp mastery is going to make you snowball harder, and you're going to have an xp advantage over enemy junglers who don't go 21 in utility. There is also that fact you're getting cdr on the smite and you can be efficient at counter jungling. I know I get away with 21 utility as Feedlesticks now, and can honestly see him being able to counter jungle efficiently. If fiddle can hit 5 before an enemy jungler hits 4 Fiddle should be able to fear and drain harder than the enemy jungler can hit him. Just theory crafting though as most junglers tend to die when they get caught in enemy forest.

On November 15 2011 01:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
The whole point of 21 Utility for Support was mainly for maximizing CV uptime. But Riot plans to nerf the shit out of CV so it's questionable if 21 Utility is worth it at all now. If CV gets dumped on, 21 Def looks amazing.

http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-0-4-0-0-4-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-2-2-0-4-0-0-1-3-0-1-0-3-3-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0

On November 15 2011 01:21 Slayer91 wrote:
What? Supports are fucking crazy strong early game before everyone gets items. It's champions that are not supports being played as supports that are usually garbage at all stages of the game.

The wealth mastery isn't supposed to be good because of the high gold value but because of the new options for starting items like vamp/dorans+1, regrowth+ward, cloth+3mp5+1 pot. probaby gives supports a lot more options as well that I'm not thinking of.

On November 15 2011 01:08 Sponkz wrote:



I'm not giving up greed and that new mastery that gives you extra start gold. Maybe if tanky supports become viable, but i would still doubt it will be worth it.

EDIT: To back it up. Supports are weakest in the very early stages of the game (this is terms of supports not champions that are being played as supports) because you have a low income due to babysitting. The new mastery somewhat fixes it, at the cost of using 24 points. Might be shitty, but i'm happy.

On November 15 2011 00:57 locodoco wrote:

imo the offense and defense trees were underpowered compared to the util tree b4 the remake and now all 3 trees are pretty even in terms of benefits
anyways gonna be super fun being able to go 21 in offense with mages :>

On November 15 2011 01:08 Sponkz wrote:



I'm not giving up greed and that new mastery that gives you extra start gold. Maybe if tanky supports become viable, but i would still doubt it will be worth it.

EDIT: To back it up. Supports are weakest in the very early stages of the game (this is terms of supports not champions that are being played as supports) because you have a low income due to babysitting. The new mastery somewhat fixes it, at the cost of using 24 points. Might be shitty, but i'm happy.