EPT[Champion] Kennen - Page 10
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D u o
Canada381 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Anyway, I like it just looking at it. You get the typical first few points in utility(movement speed, improved recall, and reduced cd on flash). Next work into 3% spell vamp+life steal and an extra 25 gold to start amp tome+2 pots. Eventually you'll want to grab pickpocket, the cdr, and the 3% movement speed. I base this around the change to Wota, where they're putting a kage's in the recipe cost. Since you went amp tome first, you can turn it into a pick or revolver, depending on how well you're doing. With the Kage's+picpocket(which is really easy since you AA a lot as Kennen top) you could say you are going "gp/10" Kennen. Also, you could probably get away with running an armor/mr quint or two depending on your lane, since you start with +20 ap. I would run 9/0/21 vs a Garen or Udyr top pretty much. Lanes where you win big would make this setup silly I feel. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
You can still go something else if you want. Could be 5 pots+ward instead. iunno what you would start on Kennen in all honesty though. Don't like flask on champs that don't have mana. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Since WotA will change in the same patch as the flask, boots+3 opening will probably be less "weak" than now if you don't like flask. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Never see the little yordle anymore. Even though his nerfs weren't that heavy. I feel like he's still got a great initiate and uninitiate with his E that helps ganks and lets him survive hard hitting bruisers. I like how since he doesn't have to use mana his jungler can have it if he's mid and he can buy rylais first without having to worry about mana. Then Liandrys adds some decent damage compared to other items, when Kennen is ulting. I hated Kennen's laning phase since everyone can push better than him but he can at least survive it imo and get kills if good ganks come by. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On January 23 2013 05:17 Cloud9157 wrote: Kennen is much better top imo. He can do fine mid, but top is such an easier lane for him. I dunno. I feel like people top can push just as hard. Even the immobile tops have a massive shield that can heal them (udyr) until the wave is under Kennen's tower. I feel like Kennen's really opportunistic in lane and teamfight CC oriented. | ||
GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
Autoattack more responsive, hopefully this lessens the animation time he holds the shuriken in his hand and rotates his hand forward to throw. Slicing Maelstrom energy cost going down to 0. Will make initiating with E--> R much easier as huge energy cost of E made it hard to have enough energy to W ppl after the 2nd tick of R to aoe stun marked targets. I play kennen as 9/0/21 for 10% cdr and with Spellvamp quints for 9% spellvamp. Top or mid is fine depending on what is best match up for you and for other mid/top. Kennen is a sustain and poke monster but his ability to carry relies on you timing your ult well post 11 (more stun marks distributed at lvl 2 ult) as well as your team taking capitalizing on it. You can't really 100-0 someone in a combo rotation, but you can certainly trade very, very well due to sustain and are practically immovable after revolver. I think Kennen doesnt see as much play due: 1) to his inherent squishy-ness pre zhonyas. 2) Core items got nerfed pretty hard in both stats and cost (wota and zhonyas). 3) Team comp he is best in (aoe double ap) not as popular anymore. 4) nerfs on q and auto range made his auto and q based harass not as good post lvl 4-5. I find my autos do a LOT of dmg lvl s 1-4 but after the first buy the effect is minimal. But I max W first over Q with Q lagging one level up behind | ||
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
statikk shiv lightning god | ||
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GhoSt[shield]
Canada2131 Posts
On January 28 2013 03:41 Ghost-z wrote: New changes to zhonyas allowing APs to build early cloth armor against bruisers might bring kennen back into flavor. I'm thinking about picking him up with all the double IP im getting this weekend. It might. I feel the R energy cost reducction to 0 will do more for him tbh. Allow you to spam spells and still have the threat of ulting them whenever its up. Also, whenever im against a bruiser I 100% buy a doran's shield, even if Im way, way ahead. The hp buffer (kennen's hp pool super small), the hp regen, armor and auto attack dmg reduction feels way too good to pass up. Combine this with spell vamp quints against a bruiser lane, you can trade evenly with heavy sustain champs or force bursty champs out of lane through attrition. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I'm not sure what Kennen could have done better. He traded really well, but he always had to poke his head out because I'd freeze lane and whenever he did, I'd just abuse my combo. Once teamfights started he started doing a lot better but by then it was too late. I think Jax v Kennen is just a bad matchup for Kennen. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
As far as runepages go I use 5-6 different pages. #1 Standard Kennen Mid Lane (ran with 9/0/21) Spellvamp Quints Energy Regen Per LvL Seals Flat Magic Resist Blues Flat Magic Pen Reds #2 Aggressive Kennen Mid Lane ( ran with either 21/0/9 or 9/0/21) Ap Quints Energy Regen Per Lvl Seals Flat Magic Pen Blues(These scale better early/mid/late game than ap/lvl but also benefit your W for early game aggro) Flat Magic Pen Reds #3 Defensive Kennen Mid Lane (usually ran with 9/9/12) Spellvamp Quints Hp/Lvl Seals Flat magic resist blues Flat magic pen reds #4 Defensive Kennen Mid/Top Lane (almost always ran with 9/10/11) Spellvamp Quints Flat armor seals Flat magic resist blues Flat magic pen reds #5 Ez Mode Kennen Top Lane (ran with w/e mastery setup you like) AP Quints Flat armor seals Flat Magic pen Blues Flat Magic pen Reds #6 Kennen surprise Tactics (Usually used with 21/9/0 speccing in % magic pen/armor pen as well as flat armor pen) This page is used vs lanes where you need the extra strong early game for example vs swain/jax. Vs ad you can subsitute Flat magic pen blues instead of the MR and vs AP you can use Energy Regen instead of the Armor if you wish. Flat AD quints Flat armor seals Flat magic resist blues Flat AD reds Due to season 3 % magic pen changes, it is better to run flat mpen blues instead of scaling ap/lvl on most ap champs if you want an aggressive setup since they will benefit you more than ap/lvl blues at all stages of the game. The only exception is champions with 2 or more abilities with absurdly high ap ratios(like gragas) or champions that have other abilities that are based off ap such as vlad's healing, champions with shields like Lux/Orianna(For lux i'd rather have the Mpen though since it benefits her passive-personal preference), zilean ultimate etc etc. With flat mpen reds/blues you will start with 14 flat mpen. If you are facing a champ with flat mr blues you've already cut through them completely, and some. Once you pick up your first magic pen items you will deal true damage to anyone without magic resist. Once you have sorc shoes and haunting guise you'll deal true damage to anyone running flat mr blues. This is what i've learned so far in the 3 weeks playing kennen. Top lane is almost always a harder match-up than mid due to gap closers. I haven't played every match-up yet so I'll probably update this with something new from time to time. I think Kennen is one of the more challenging champions to play. You really have to manage his auto attacks through out the laning phase to land those marks for stuns/zoning. It's really fun to do and once you get the hang of it you'll really start to bully your opponent. | ||
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 06 2013 14:46 nyxnyxnyx wrote: why is no one discussing ad kennen? it almost a free win with ez mf ibg cleaver bloodthirster nerfs. go 17/13/0 with normal ad runes (hybrid pen reds optional), start doran shield for max bullying / against kill lanes / high burst champs or usual long/cloth and pots. max w followed by e with one level in q. take barrier and ignite. buy statikk shiv, be super aggressive and win. Surprised there hasn't been an influx of AD Kennens since EU LCS. Either way, I expect GIANTS! to start a trend soon. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Ghost-z
United States1291 Posts
Here's what I've been bringing to lane. (9-0-21 Masteries) Against physical bruiser: doran's shield (boots if they have no gap closer) Against magical bruiser: pots/wards Against skill shot casters: boots/pots Against a gap closing champ: dorans shield Against full burst AP: doran's shield Against AD carry: dorans shield | ||
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dottycakes
Canada548 Posts
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