EPTYou don't let him ever get an auto hit off without at least getting a q off in return, and probably Q+E. You shouldn't get hit my many q's and if you do you just sit at tower and heal up and lose a few cs. Someone in general forum said jarvan shits on garen but apparently he's wrong and just better at jarvan than his opponents garen gg.
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
You don't let him ever get an auto hit off without at least getting a q off in return, and probably Q+E. You shouldn't get hit my many q's and if you do you just sit at tower and heal up and lose a few cs. Someone in general forum said jarvan shits on garen but apparently he's wrong and just better at jarvan than his opponents garen gg. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14187 Posts
But like I said I don't understand the matchup sometimes I just get wrecked and I don't know why sometimes its a free lane and I don't know why. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On February 16 2013 14:34 rhs408 wrote: Garen not gonna get nerfed until he starts getting abused in pro tourney games, and he is still not used in ANY tourney games (which I still find hard to imagine), so it will be a looong time. As much as I'd like this to be true, it is not. Riot frequently nerfs people who are popular in soloq, even if they were never played in tournaments. Fresh examples are Riven and Shaco. | ||
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rhs408
United States904 Posts
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23204-unofficial-pbe-patch-notes-for-2-16-2013 | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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LOLItsRyann
England551 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
On February 16 2013 22:01 LOLItsRyann wrote: About time. So fucking broken in lane. Adding a mana bar would make him fine. How is he broken lol? He has a lot more counterpicks than most champs and his teamfighting is horrible. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
assuming runes and masteries still count for something, you're losing 14.5 armour and 10.5 magic resist which is 500 gold loss of stats at level 18, significant but hopefully not game breaking. You lost about 8.5 of each by level 9 though which is about 350 gold by level 9 which is slightly more significant. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10542 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Shit's p good. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
Could be bad Garens though (Winning lane with: Shen, Irelia, Riven, Renekton) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
the only one in there that might be good against garen is shen and he's banned a lot and sucks later against warmogs teams so baylife | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
So his early laning does redonk damage (obviously.) The catch being if you initiate with Q your escape and slow cancellation is gone. However he is pretty tanky in general so a lot of times you can either run away anyway or take 1 for 1. Especially at level 6. His midgame which I'll say is Brutalizer, boots 2 and warmogs, is ridiculous. Just Brutalizer increases his damage so much and with Warmogs and good timing of W you are nigh unkillable. You will 1 shot squishies so I like to flank team as opposed to charging up the middle and just flash QEW making them all focus you is great for engaging and if you are lucky you can get a kill. He is a great midgame oracles holder, which then ties into the flanking. No ward coverage for enemy team makes it easier. mid-late game which I'll consider Bruta, boots 2, Warmogs, Sunfire + kindlegem/negatron perhaps a finished Visage. You are just unkillable and your damage isn't terrible yet, but its definitely falling off. This is where I think Garen is the weakest damage wise as you haven't built your 2nd damage item, but definitely his strongest tank wise. You just should not die and you should still be a threat to squishies. Late game: Ghostblade or Cleaver: I have been leaning towards Ghostblade recently, Cleaver really is shit on Garen and after using it a lot early, I feel Ghostblade is just better for what Garen wants to do, and thats get on squishies dicks. Last item: Las Whisper. Synergizes well with Cleaver AND Ghostblade, allows you to kill tanks, and just increases your damage a shit ton. Consider selling: Sunfire for Randuins. At this point Randuins is likely the better option, the active lets you stick on them better, the passive hurts their ADC who should be nearing 6 items and it will keep you alive much longer. Your only threat is the ADC and this is the best item vs them. /rant on Garen this is after running Garen on my smurf to gold for fun, started playing him on my main and have gone 14-6 with 8.3-4.2-5.9 averages | ||
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