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Innuendo
Belgium616 Posts
On February 01 2013 15:02 101toss wrote: Triforce/LW/Hydra sound all good on paper Hydra is not that good: -cleave only does Ad dmg, not stacked dmg -crescent same -only main target death gives +3 dmg, non-main target kills don't | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
Going 9 in offensive seems pretty silly, quite a bit of your damage is from E and R anyway, better get 21 in utility for that 6% cdr and movement speed and other goodies. Putting points in E and just qing the large creep seems like the best way to play him. You get 66% of your original q stacks compared to doing it perfectly before but you don't artificially slow yourself. Hydra is trash, lw is okay if they stack armour trinity is going to be good when it costs a reasonable price again. Spirit of the ancient golem+cdr boots+kindlegem into locket+glacial seems like a good core and maybe a spirit visage instead of glacial vs heavier magic damage. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
Stacking lifesteal is only good for 1v1 or fed as fuck ad carries when there isn't 123103213 assassins that can jump you which is pretty much never these days | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On February 01 2013 23:23 obesechicken13 wrote: Nasus Q is decent but it takes a while for it to even become better than Jax's W when CDR is taken into consideration. Spirit stone makes sense since you don't really want to lose Q procs from madreds procs. Only your Q procs the spirit of red buff. I'd say you need a consistent slow to prevent kiting and then you go tank stats since Nasus doesn't have the mobility in teamfights to survive if he's not tanky. 2 points in E might kill the little creeps too fast. I played Shyvana jungle recently and I think I killed the little wraiths with a level 1 W. I think another big consideration if you're going to max Q is your mana consumption. Q at low levels doesn't cost much, but it steadily increases to 40mana and a shorter cooldown. Are you taking blue buffs? The biggest problem is still going to be your clear speed. If you slow it down to farm your Q then you can't gank for your allies as much. His W is decent CC if you can somehow get in range to use it. On spirit of red buff, I can confirm E and R damage both *do* proc it (tested in custom game, feel free to check yourself) And yeah I looked at the mana costs, but spirit stone should cover you as long as you use E responsibly Also the reasoning behind hydra was that you have lulzy aoe healing while being tanky so you don't get bursted 100 to 0, but it seems iffy at best. Armor pen runes are questionable on nasus since E already shreds armor to really low levels. Flat ad/AS/MS seem good, would have to test | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 02 2013 03:45 101toss wrote: On spirit of red buff, I can confirm E and R damage both *do* proc it (tested in custom game, feel free to check yourself) And yeah I looked at the mana costs, but spirit stone should cover you as long as you use E responsibly Also the reasoning behind hydra was that you have lulzy aoe healing while being tanky so you don't get bursted 100 to 0, but it seems iffy at best. Armor pen runes are questionable on nasus since E already shreds armor to really low levels. Not only that doesn't his Q and R do magic damage? Yeah, I wasn't sure about spirit myself. It seems AoE isn't classified as DoT immediately. Thank you for doing the tests. | ||
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sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
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CatharsisUT
United States487 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On February 04 2013 03:52 ticklishmusic wrote: Doesn't hydra synergize with Nasus ult? He gets ridiculous AD from it, so boom boom boom AOE death right? Pretty sure damage is not Nasus's problem. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23342 Posts
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CatharsisUT
United States487 Posts
1. Health 2. AOE magic damage 3. Bonus AD People are just going to scatter when you ult lategame, so hydra doesn't make much sense to me. Again, lifesteal is not as good as defense on him. You're not an AD, you can't sit there attacking to keep your health up. You need health and resists to survive as people try to kite you. Edited because spelling 2hard. | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
On February 04 2013 05:26 Sufficiency wrote: Pretty sure damage is not Nasus's problem. Right, Nasus already has guaranteed damage built in (self scaling q, armor reduction, and r bonus). He needs extra mobility and tank stats, as long as he stays alive he'll deal out a lot of damage regardless. His passive and w also ensure that as long as you can outlast the enemies he'll be progessively harder to take out the fewer they get. Building an item purely for damage is not really the way to go, if you want more damage something along the line of atma's is better as it at least gives you armor and criting with q is way strong and lifesteals more than enough. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
Before it couldn't. This is weird. It really shouldn't imo. It leads to a lot more damage on lucky TriForce crits and I have no idea when it was stealth patched in... Little things like this make theorycrafting much harder. | ||
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CatharsisUT
United States487 Posts
It does make TF a lot more attractive, though. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On February 04 2013 08:19 CatharsisUT wrote: Hyfe posted it, I'm instantly a believer. It does make TF a lot more attractive, though. Who is Hyfe? | ||
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