EPT[Champion] Nasus - Page 10
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21352 Posts
On February 08 2013 16:17 101toss wrote: that feel when that crit also, from rog: + Show Spoiler + Nasus becomes empowered in the sandstorm for 15 seconds,increasing his maximum Health by 300/450/600,Attack Range by 50/50/50,and cast ranges by 150/150/150. Also W range increased from 700 to 800. Seriously, wtf. Even if they change that crit stuff, this stuff seems like it'll break nasus Does it actualy fix any of his real problems tho? He is bullied in lane. Heavily relies on farm to do his job. Yes 950 range Wither during ult is hilarious but it doesnt help him reach lategame better | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
 From testing it out I learned I need to work on clicking the small wolf XD | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
Boots of Swiftness also helps a lot. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
what? warmogs "meta" is just to do with the champions people are picking. Nobody is playing warmogs lux its just assassins and tops are getting warmogs more because its really strong and the alternatives ere nerfed and it became obvious it was storng even after the nerfs. Warmogs on ADs is something that I saw once in a while and was really good but because ads build defensive items late you didnt have time to stack it and back then GA was just a better alternative because it wasnt horribly nerfed then | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 09 2013 05:18 mordek wrote: Does running all that crit chance mess up your last hitting with Q at all? Any tips on managing your Q cooldown and camps appreciated too From testing it out I learned I need to work on clicking the small wolf XDEarly on it can, but very quickly your Q bonus damage becomes greater than the extra damage from a crit auto and you're fine. On February 09 2013 06:55 Sufficiency wrote: I tried him a few times in the jungle today and he feels pretty good. Unfortunately, it didn't feel that the reason he is good is because the double bonus from bigger monster thing (one game I casually counted and I killed about 20 big monsters, but that's only 60 extra damage on Q). I think he is good because of the warmog meta and he builds all health items. Boots of Swiftness also helps a lot. You only cleared the jungle 6 times? o.O | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
we ended up losing anyway tho (throws at the end coulda won) that felt like the score i needed to be getting to be above average usefulness as nasus (and even then Im not sure if i feel like xin level op) the thing is even when youre uber farmed on nasus its like you could have won 10x easier by just actively ganking a lot on xin or amumu or jarvan and even if youre a bit behind in farm you have a better team so who cares at least thats what my opponents been doing wololol | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I'm also switching to Defensive masteries. As funny as Offense was, I was definitely far too squishy between my runes and masteries. You still get the hilarious crit kills this way, but you're also way, way tankier/raid boss mode. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Also, do you even consider him as a legitimate laner anymore or only jungle? | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
I'll be trying the CDR-focused build out for now, including utility masteries. It's fun to stack 300 damage on Q in 12 minutes, but you really don't need that much afk-farm time to be effective. I've had games where I've barely made 200 at 21:40 but still constituted a significant threat. With the mana cost change he may be better in lane, but I think it's still very easy for opponents to pressure him away from creeps. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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dogmatix
Australia339 Posts
what's everyones thoughts on fist vs frozen heart/tri force. (assuming everyone gets sheen/glacial) I like fist and feel like it was really made for Nasus but I get really annoyed when it stuffs up my Q farm haha. Do people just sit on glacial sheen and get visage/locket/other tanky stuff first? | ||
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Thereisnosaurus
Australia1822 Posts
I'm still trying to figure out how to build him now. He doesn't work so well with the health stacking meta because it really doesn't synergise that well with his kit. He already gets health from his ult, stacking health doesn't increase the value of his lifesteal and he's one of the few bruisers who really gets fucked up by lategame carries with percentage damage and a cleanse because once wither is down you're basically useless if you can't combo onto a CCed squishy. So I figure going for a lot of CDR and mixing in a fair hunk of resists with a decent amount of health in there from stuff like spirit visage and randuins perhaps. I'm considering the CDR rush too, with 10 from masteries and another 10 from a quick kindlegem for laning, you can then get the other 20 from finishing a spirit and a glacial depending on what's needed. The main difficulty with him is itemising for MR after you have a SV, there aren't that many good options for him, outside just going mad tanky mode and building a bulwark. If you could drop the randuins to get it it would be good, but randuins is just so fantastic on him with the anticarry mechanics and the debuff you can drop as you wade in I'm hesitant to do so. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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Sermokala
United States13737 Posts
On February 16 2013 05:50 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: I used to play a LOT of nasus based on Hyfe's guide; what are the thoughts of the good nasus players nowadays on how to run him? What masteries and runes? I have plenty of runepages so I could just run 5 pages for big dog. Just read the thread and ask questions. I have no idea who hyfe is or why his guide anymore is any good. I also have no idea if your post Is about top nasus or jungle nasus. There is literaly no way for anyone to respond to you well. | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On February 16 2013 06:15 Sermokala wrote: Just read the thread and ask questions. I have no idea who hyfe is or why his guide anymore is any good. I also have no idea if your post Is about top nasus or jungle nasus. There is literaly no way for anyone to respond to you well. You're right. Sorry for the bad post. It just seemed that the discussion of the last few pages was about jungle nasus and the OP is rather outdated. Questions: -What boots do you guys like buying on nasus? What enchantments? Swifts and mercs both seem look solid choices, with alacrity enchantment? -What kind of runes do you guys run vs bruisers top? And vs AP laners? Any particularly easy lanes where you could pull off GP/10 quints, movespeed quints or like CDR quints? -Do you guys still go for Gp/5 items? In what situations? -I figured that as Nasus you start flask and just farm farm farm; as soon as you get some money you get resists and health into Frozen Gauntlet (sheen+glacial item) into boots or something? Also with the Q buff; is it really necessary to max it first? Seems like putting 2-3 fast points in wither will make Jax etc a breeze and will make your lane very tempting to gank. | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
On February 16 2013 17:41 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: You're right. Sorry for the bad post. It just seemed that the discussion of the last few pages was about jungle nasus and the OP is rather outdated. Questions: -What boots do you guys like buying on nasus? What enchantments? Swifts and mercs both seem look solid choices, with alacrity enchantment? -What kind of runes do you guys run vs bruisers top? And vs AP laners? Any particularly easy lanes where you could pull off GP/10 quints, movespeed quints or like CDR quints? -Do you guys still go for Gp/5 items? In what situations? -I figured that as Nasus you start flask and just farm farm farm; as soon as you get some money you get resists and health into Frozen Gauntlet (sheen+glacial item) into boots or something? Also with the Q buff; is it really necessary to max it first? Seems like putting 2-3 fast points in wither will make Jax etc a breeze and will make your lane very tempting to gank. I'll answer for current jungle Nasus... Swifties are my choice; normally in combination with Spirit of the AG for the slow- and tenacity. Enchantment wise I say homeguard; I don't really think Alacrity is worth it I run my old Phoenix Udyr runes; Aspd marks, Armour seals, Mres/lv glyphs and Movement quints. I'm pretty sure these can be improved however in the marks department. I just love move speed too much though I used to go Avarice, not sure how effective it is now, despite being buffed Leave the IBG upgrade til later on; it's not a critical upgrade and can wait. Sheen and Glacial are nice mid game items though Get Locket If anything, the Q buff gives you more incentive to max it first. Need that CDR | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
On February 16 2013 18:17 Eishi_Ki wrote: I'll answer for current jungle Nasus... Swifties are my choice; normally in combination with Spirit of the AG for the slow- and tenacity. Enchantment wise I say homeguard; I don't really think Alacrity is worth it I run my old Phoenix Udyr runes; Aspd marks, Armour seals, Mres/lv glyphs and Movement quints. I'm pretty sure these can be improved however in the marks department. I just love move speed too much though I used to go Avarice, not sure how effective it is now, despite being buffed Leave the IBG upgrade til later on; it's not a critical upgrade and can wait. Sheen and Glacial are nice mid game items though Get Locket If anything, the Q buff gives you more incentive to max it first. Need that CDR Alright, thanks a lot. Locket does indeed seem awesome. Any thoughts on lane nasus regarding these questions? | ||
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