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On July 10 2011 05:15 Juicyfruit wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 01:58 c.Deadly wrote: She seems like a really strong teleport ganker. Gap closer, stun, AoE stun/slow, her passive, etcetc. I still don't think she's a better solo top than irelia/jarvan, but maybe she will be great in AoE comps or something. Do you guys think she would be a viable roamer? If you use the passive properly, her damage potential with an ally teammate should become way powerful. The scaling on her passive looks really good. 140x4 damage at lv 18 looks really strong to me. Also anyone knows her price? I can see her in the champions tab but she's not in the store
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On July 10 2011 05:21 r33k wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 05:15 Juicyfruit wrote:On July 10 2011 01:58 c.Deadly wrote: She seems like a really strong teleport ganker. Gap closer, stun, AoE stun/slow, her passive, etcetc. I still don't think she's a better solo top than irelia/jarvan, but maybe she will be great in AoE comps or something. Do you guys think she would be a viable roamer? If you use the passive properly, her damage potential with an ally teammate should become way powerful. The scaling on her passive looks really good. 140x4 damage at lv 18 looks really strong to me. Also anyone knows her price? I can see her in the champions tab but she's not in the store 
they consume the debuff, so it only triggers for the first ally damage
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Yeah but every skill puts it back on right? As far as I see it it's going to be like lux's passive only anyone can trigger it.
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i think shed be good with 2x phantom dancer
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On July 10 2011 07:34 r33k wrote: Yeah but every skill puts it back on right? As far as I see it it's going to be like lux's passive only anyone can trigger it.
I think so, I wonder if her 3 aoe spells put the debuff on all targets dealt damage too, cause that would be pretty sweet for team fights.
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On July 10 2011 07:56 BlueBird. wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2011 07:34 r33k wrote: Yeah but every skill puts it back on right? As far as I see it it's going to be like lux's passive only anyone can trigger it. I think so, I wonder if her 3 aoe spells put the debuff on all targets dealt damage too, cause that would be pretty sweet for team fights. They do its in the spotlight. That's why she's awesome. Think about initiating with her and having annie or brand on your team.
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if leona can jungle she's gonna be a top pick too much CC she's like shen + sion + annie
if she can't jungle she might be decent top but i can't really see putting her bottom tbh
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United States60 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote: if leona can jungle she's gonna be a top pick too much CC she's like shen + sion + annie
if she can't jungle she might be decent top but i can't really see putting her bottom tbh She doesnt have that much CC. Also note that all her CC only lasts 1.5 seconds, and the stun range on her ult is pretty small.
But yea, she could be a good ganker with red and if you hit them with your E.
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United States47024 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote: if leona can jungle she's gonna be a top pick too much CC she's like shen + sion + annie
if she can't jungle she might be decent top but i can't really see putting her bottom tbh I can't see her being that great of a jungler. She has no natural sustain, and none of her skills stick out as great in the jungle.
Compare her to jungle Jarvan--she has no % current HP proc, no aspd steroid, lower base damage on her nukes, and longer cooldowns. She'll have a comparable gank, but significantly worse speed--and Jarvan's jungle is already on the slow side.
On top of that, itemizing her in the jungle would be awkward. She doesn't have a kit like Amumu's or Nunu's that clearly doesn't need Wriggles to jungle, and at the same time, Wriggles is an awkward item for her to get because she has no AD-based scaling.
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Stop this nonsense. You have not even played the champion yet. 2 months down the line you will most likely have forgotten this thread.
Its pretty though.
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On July 11 2011 05:18 Ordained wrote: Stop this nonsense. You have not even played the champion yet. 2 months down the line you will most likely have forgotten this thread.
Its pretty though. :D Remember the StarCraft II theorycrafting?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On July 11 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote: if leona can jungle she's gonna be a top pick too much CC she's like shen + sion + annie
if she can't jungle she might be decent top but i can't really see putting her bottom tbh
high base damage and low scaling, plus a passive that directly benefits from having a lane partner, why don't you think she should be in bottom lane
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On July 11 2011 06:11 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2011 02:34 gtrsrs wrote: if leona can jungle she's gonna be a top pick too much CC she's like shen + sion + annie
if she can't jungle she might be decent top but i can't really see putting her bottom tbh high base damage and low scaling, plus a passive that directly benefits from having a lane partner, why don't you think she should be in bottom lane She definitely should not play the support role though.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
i don't think it's entirely necessary for bot lane to only give farm to one person
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I feel like she could be kind of like Alistar where she could be a little bit of both, lot's of CC, hopefully inherent tankiness. Like i said I have no idea how good her solo lane/jungle will be, but I could see her being good on a team without farm(just with her CC, passive, base damage), and i could see her being good on a team with farm, tri force into tanky dps. Like ALI can play a few different roles. Idk though.
Also, theorycrafting is fun!
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On July 11 2011 06:31 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: i don't think it's entirely necessary for bot lane to only give farm to one person I agree, actually. Still doesn't change my opinion that Leona shouln't assume the role of a support.
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Too bad Leona is now postponed..
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On July 11 2011 07:31 Spacely wrote: Too bad Leona is now postponed..
source?
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I find myself wondering if item actives (Gunblade etc.) proc her passive? I'm not sure it would result in any real build viability, but it's an interesting question.
I've been looking at her versus Amumu a lot as well, since they have some very similar skillsets. She of course wont have the team stun ability, but her CD's seem much lower, and her base stats seem better too. Better health, mana, hp regen and mana regen, both base and per level. The only areas (other than AD or AS) she's worse in are armor scaling, and even has higher base armor.
I would also like to see her jungle abilities. With eclipse she's at 51 armor and 60 MR. Add cloth armor and she'll get up to 68 armor 60 MR.
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