EPT[Champion] Fiddlesticks - Page 3
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Start at their double gol and do a ridiculous level 2 gank at the corresponding lane, then you're really free to go wherever you want. I usually just walk back to blue buff and take it but some teams play it smart and immediately run for the blue (as it's the logical next progression) so I can jostle people by just walking straight to mid and doing a level 2 gank again. Depending on the enemy jungler you might be able to catch and beat them at wraiths too. WQWQ(or E)WR W>Q>E Item build tends to be 3 DRings into Deathcap and then Banshee/Void/Abyssal, but I've had a tendency to rush Hourglass instead depending on where my ults are going and how much of a priority the other team makes me, ie. if I'm ulting into towers to initiate/towerbomb then Hourglass kicks ass. Main problem I'm having right now with Fiddle is money... I always have like the lowest (other than support) CS on the team, at inordinately low levels. Like 30 minute game don't break 100. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or if that's just how things go. | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
Obviously you must fight where there is a giant enemy creepwave so you can get cs with ult without your teammates yelling at you. | ||
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Truez
Australia147 Posts
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alokin
Canada269 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
In the early game u can and its better to engage the ennemy champs with ure ult because champions lack burst damage to kill you but sometime ure team doesnt let u engage, however in mid and late game the tank in ure team should always engage (well if ure 15-0 ok u can) before you. This concept 3-2 month ago some people didnt grasp it and so u could loose game even if u had a very good early game because fiddlestick can carry a team ONLY if u have good coordination. For the jungling, i take 9/0/21 flash/smite and the same as Soulthlight with runes. AP quint helps u a LOT for ure early jungling, armor is not mandatory but it hepls also a bit ure jungling and ure early ganks. The best item to take first is a tome. Doran rings is a better item yes but like everybody now is that fiddlestick is not a good farmer and u need to level up ure tome to a lucky pick at ure first blue pill if u want to keep a gold influx in the mid late game. There is no reason to take boots at ure first item cause ure junglin will be slower and the boot will help you just for a lvl 4 gank. Ive played a lot of fiddlestick and with the increase of support bot lane who carries 2-3 wards at level 1 and the top lane with some form of substain, dont except to gank at level 4. Its better to jungle faster and to hit ure level 6 faster with boots and a kage lucky to start ganking with ure ultimate ! For the path with fiddle there is a lot of different path. U can start at their double golems or at their red even but the thing is, with so much people protecting their jungler at blue, a lot of them come a bit late to the bot or top lane and sometimes they can see you it can screw you by a lot (and i say that for a lot of champs ! chogath,trynd,ww, etc...) Just dont do it if its the bot lane, they can burst you fast If u start with their red u wont be level 2 but u will have just enough mana to do ure blue. If u start at their mini golem u will be level 2 but u wont have smite ready for ure blue THe general path is to drain the big wolf then do ure blue -> rest of wolf -> wraith -> red -> mini golems -> look at the lane next to you if u can gank, if u cant blue pill -> jungle to level 6 then gank Dont invade their jungle, u have no escape mechanism,no cc until level 4 really, and frankly u wont kill someone if they play semi decent | ||
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TheBJ
Bulgaria906 Posts
I am not very experienced since i only started playing 2 months ago and ranked since 3 weeks or so but im rocking 2k elo and ill share my 2 cents. - Start golem , depending on heroes top and if your mate top has ignite gank and also requires a hero that can kill someone at lvl 1 with your help , its the way to go. I also buy the 20 AP tome as a starting item if the gank top is successful you can blue pill and get uout first gp5 item instanly. Clear rest of the junlge or gank if a flash is wasted somewhere. - Keep in mind comming back top might not be the best idea since its already warded and the enemy jungler will probably be waiting to help there and fiddle aint the best in equal hero number fights on low levels. -The first bought big viable items are: -Deathcap ( You think you wont need zonya) -Zonya ( The game is equal you might get instant gibbed if you ulti into many enemies ) - Rylai ( general hp / ap / utility ) | ||
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Rayansaki
Portugal1266 Posts
On June 30 2011 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote: So far, I like suicidal Fiddle the best. Full on AP/Magic Pen. Without RoA or Rylai's, you're fairly squishy but you deal enough damage to quad or ace the other team by trading your own life. I'd consider Banshee's if the enemy has the potential of disrupting Fiddle while channeling his ulti. Zhonya's as 6th item. Just try your best to Fear and Drain the enemy AP carry. They're the only one who have the ability to burst you down before the full Crowstorm duration. I agree with this, and is the build I run as well. Only early def I get is from yellow/blue runes, other than that is MPen reds, AP quints, rush deathcap->void staff->abyssal scepter->zhonya->banshee You are very squishy if they have disablers, but if they fail to disable you, the drain life more than makes up for your lack of defense, and it doesn't matter if you die after a triple/quadra or you get them so low that your team aces after you die. I don't usually jungle with him, on my premade I go mid and swap at 6 with our jungler, and I just wander around the map ganking. The reason for this is that he is a terrible farmer, and a capable but slow jungler, so the plan is always to be the first to lvl 6, imediatly gank a side lane and then be in every gank possible while jungleing in the downtimes. The only champion's he can't handle at all mid are vayne and malz because of their easy harass coupled with drain interrupt. my build is (QW if jungle gank) (WQ if no gank)WQWREQQQRWWEEREE Flash/Ignite 9/0/21 | ||
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alokin
Canada269 Posts
I am kind a noob in LoL (only 100 games) but enjoy it very much and fiddlesticks is by far my favorite champ.. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 20 2011 04:35 Southlight wrote: He gets banned a lot between US players but EU players for some reason don't play him, dunno why. Same reason why Rumble was popular on EU for the longest time and not apparent on NA. No one shined with the champion on the server, so general public doesn't have the interest to try out/practice the champ. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On August 20 2011 08:08 0123456789 wrote: I don't see EU players playing stronger junglers or jungling too well. Definitely EU's weakest suit, as a whole. NA junglers are just multi faceted. Jungles swiftly, counter jungles, early ganks, non 5-man Drag potential. EU can't counter jungle at all and I haven't seen solo Drag or Jungle+Bot lane Dragons by EU yet. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Tryhard normals] + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/4gqLI.jpg) Also, I'm not sure if this was said, but the way I gank is: Ult from out of sight > flash as needed > fear instantly, use fear time to get as close as possible to them, silence as fear ends, then channel w. Maximizes damage and CC time. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Zhonya => Deathcap es best. Reducing MR with a fast Abyssal doesn't really compare to moar AP of Deathcap. | ||
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Cedstick
Canada3336 Posts
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
Fiddle has the best collection of skins omg. Fiddle me timbers and bandito fiddle and even spectral fiddle! | ||
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Argoth.
Germany1961 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 09 2011 05:02 Argoth. wrote: Does the magic resists decrease from abyssal scepter stack with fiddle's passive? And is anyone using will of the ancients for spellvamp? Abyssal scepter stacks with fiddle's passive. WotA is nice if your AP carry or support isn't building it but it's a luxury item for Fiddle imo | ||
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