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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
June 29 2011 20:43 GMT
#21
ive been maxing e first on jungle fiddle, but running into the problem of having trash ganks pre-6. Ill try q max instead. I'd still recommend lvl 2 e just because of how much of a difference i feel like it makes in terms of jungle speed. E max's jungle speed is unreal, and i'd actually probably do it for fiddle counterjungling (l0l, what an amusing thought)
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-29 21:40:39
June 29 2011 21:21 GMT
#22
Just saw elementz doing boots/ward/pot and maxing W > E > Q

I think he runs full scaling AP or some shit, he gains 4 AP per level.

Boots -> Deathcap -> WotA
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
June 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#23
I go WEWQWR, then I max Q (op 3 sec hard cc) and get some points into E and max W last. I like to get enough levels in W such that I can always have it up (no cooldown if fully channeled) depending on CDR.

I go amp tome + pot -> revolver -> deathcap -> tank/cdr(glacial usually)/void staff. I find leaving E as low level as possible saves mana for this type of build (but you really need to hog the blue buff).

I would go RoA first but I just feel like as a jungler, fiddle won't be getting enough farm so his deathcap will be super slow with RoA first. Also I feel like even with RoA, you're not gonna have enough mana to spam all spells like crazy without blue buff. Fiddle uses a LOT of mana =/.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 29 2011 23:09 GMT
#24
Just tried Tome => Revolver Boots => Sorcs => Deathcap => Void Staff.
I do a shit ton more damage in team fights obvious since I'm skipping on Catalyst/RoA but I feel like I have to back a lot more. Team fights I do better but when just jungling, mana dwindles fast with no mana or mana regen items.
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Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
June 29 2011 23:16 GMT
#25
Tome > Haunting Guise > Spellpen Boots #1 opening.
I have a very unique name.
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 30 2011 00:51 GMT
#26
I started with dorans ring, got revolver then boots then zhonyas. felt pretty durable with W up but squishy as balls all other times
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 30 2011 01:02 GMT
#27
So far, I like suicidal Fiddle the best. Full on AP/Magic Pen. Without RoA or Rylai's, you're fairly squishy but you deal enough damage to quad or ace the other team by trading your own life. I'd consider Banshee's if the enemy has the potential of disrupting Fiddle while channeling his ulti. Zhonya's as 6th item.

Just try your best to Fear and Drain the enemy AP carry. They're the only one who have the ability to burst you down before the full Crowstorm duration.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 30 2011 01:24 GMT
#28
On June 30 2011 10:02 NeoIllusions wrote:
So far, I like suicidal Fiddle the best. Full on AP/Magic Pen. Without RoA or Rylai's, you're fairly squishy but you deal enough damage to quad or ace the other team by trading your own life. I'd consider Banshee's if the enemy has the potential of disrupting Fiddle while channeling his ulti. Zhonya's as 6th item.

Just try your best to Fear and Drain the enemy AP carry. They're the only one who have the ability to burst you down before the full Crowstorm duration.

I disagree, really. Your ulti lasts for 5 seconds, I'm certain you die before that. I can almost guarantee you deal more damage by building a little bit of survivability.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
June 30 2011 05:19 GMT
#29
Did anyone try building him similar to tanky CDR Cho or Morgana? Like Frozen Heart, Banshees, Abyssal, RoA, that kind of stuff. Since he has a stupidly long CC and an ability to sustain himself all day if he can stay on a target I can see that work actually.
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 30 2011 05:44 GMT
#30
On June 30 2011 14:19 r.Evo wrote:
Did anyone try building him similar to tanky CDR Cho or Morgana? Like Frozen Heart, Banshees, Abyssal, RoA, that kind of stuff. Since he has a stupidly long CC and an ability to sustain himself all day if he can stay on a target I can see that work actually.


probably work ok in theory , think you need a void staff somewhere as well
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Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
June 30 2011 06:48 GMT
#31
On June 30 2011 14:19 r.Evo wrote:
Did anyone try building him similar to tanky CDR Cho or Morgana? Like Frozen Heart, Banshees, Abyssal, RoA, that kind of stuff. Since he has a stupidly long CC and an ability to sustain himself all day if he can stay on a target I can see that work actually.

I've been doing this in ranked and it's been working out. Quick Abyssal so the AP can't burst me down and then a glacial Shroud into damage into Frozen Heart. It's pretty strong. I like it a lot better than the RoA build which feels really slow to me.

Caveat here is that I've been using fiddle to get myself out of ELO hell. I'm 5 & 2 with him so it's working but the competition isn't that tough. Finally back to even stats though!
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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
June 30 2011 07:35 GMT
#32
On June 30 2011 15:48 Rainmaker5 wrote:
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On June 30 2011 14:19 r.Evo wrote:
Did anyone try building him similar to tanky CDR Cho or Morgana? Like Frozen Heart, Banshees, Abyssal, RoA, that kind of stuff. Since he has a stupidly long CC and an ability to sustain himself all day if he can stay on a target I can see that work actually.

I've been doing this in ranked and it's been working out. Quick Abyssal so the AP can't burst me down and then a glacial Shroud into damage into Frozen Heart. It's pretty strong. I like it a lot better than the RoA build which feels really slow to me.

Caveat here is that I've been using fiddle to get myself out of ELO hell. I'm 5 & 2 with him so it's working but the competition isn't that tough. Finally back to even stats though!


Sounds like your lacking some health in this build, consider Haunting Guise/Catalyst to turn into banshees/Gian'ts belt to turn into rylais
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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
July 02 2011 17:23 GMT
#33
Can somebody give me some advice on how to counter Fiddle? I don't mean in lane, just in general. During team fights or whatever, a 3 second (I think 2 with merc treads) CC is basically infinity duration. Even as a tank, I run in, get feared, and basically get rocked before I can use any skills.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
July 02 2011 20:40 GMT
#34
If that's your only problem then QSS will work wonders. MRes isn't bad against Fiddle either you know.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#35
On July 03 2011 02:23 arnath wrote:
Can somebody give me some advice on how to counter Fiddle? I don't mean in lane, just in general. During team fights or whatever, a 3 second (I think 2 with merc treads) CC is basically infinity duration. Even as a tank, I run in, get feared, and basically get rocked before I can use any skills.


Wards and game sense.
Are the enemy out in "the open" and playing aggressive when they shouldn't be? Are they leaning towards some cliff/ledge/push?

If you're in a Fiddle ulti, it's too late. Best thing to do is to somehow get Fiddle to waste his ulti. If you have good ward placement, run back as soon as he starts to channel.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
July 03 2011 00:31 GMT
#36
This little bugger is half price at the moment as well...
fifasnipe2224
Profile Joined January 2011
United States243 Posts
July 10 2011 07:15 GMT
#37
I love this champ!
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.:RoS:.
Falco252
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
France197 Posts
July 11 2011 10:19 GMT
#38
Wut wut Fiddle is viable nao?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 11 2011 10:25 GMT
#39
On July 11 2011 19:19 Falco252 wrote:
Wut wut Fiddle is viable nao?


He's ban material now. Not just viable.
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Falco252
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
France197 Posts
July 11 2011 11:30 GMT
#40
Just cause of 0.5s on ult Oo?
Or they buffed ratios?

Btw : http://solomid.net/videoplayer.php?v=442 lalalall
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