[Champion] Lux - Page 8

On October 09 2012 18:35 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Has anyone else tried an APless start lux? I've been mucking around with opening chalice>catalyst> vest/cloak> grail/roa >etc after watching froggen's anivia play. Lux seems to share many of the same properties as anivia in the sense that she's highly mana dependent, squishy, has incredibly powerful spells with good base values and is a great farmer if she can spam. I've found playing like that early I can push my lane and roam safely, plus have the resources to seriously pressure which ever lane I roam.

It's not even like I'm hamstringing my late game, just building my stock of burst late rather than early, so I can really dominate the early/midgame where AP lux is generally pretty meh.

On October 09 2012 17:14 clickrush wrote:
I felt that lux initiates even better than sona (my main) simply because she can initate more frequently on a good range. I didn't level shield at all early game to have the maximum available burst. Her shield really only shines in teamfights anyway? having two spammable disables high base damage and range is very rare for supports. lulu kinda does that but has inferiour range.

her laneing seems so strong to me because it is super easy to either deny farm or dealing alot of safe/free damage with E and Q is so strong as a disengagement and killing tool as well. I also love how her skills make her a super strong roamer and safe ward-bitch at the same time. getting some ap shouldnt be that hard on her because you stay away from the frontline and can afford only to get shureilas for survivability while with sona, soraka or lulu you would be much closer most of the time to use their set effectively. with some ap i mean a couple drings/mejas/similarly cheap stuff and it felt like it was a ton of damage during ganking phase for a support.

On October 09 2012 18:35 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Has anyone else tried an APless start lux? I've been mucking around with opening chalice>catalyst> vest/cloak> grail/roa >etc after watching froggen's anivia play. Lux seems to share many of the same properties as anivia in the sense that she's highly mana dependent, squishy, has incredibly powerful spells with good base values and is a great farmer if she can spam. I've found playing like that early I can push my lane up and roam safely, plus have the resources to seriously pressure which ever lane I roam and be safe against all but the most hardcore enemy plays.

It's not even like I'm hamstringing my late game, just building my stock of burst late rather than early, so I can really dominate the early/midgame where AP lux is generally pretty meh.

On October 09 2012 19:00 overt wrote:


Yeah no reason to level w in lane as support Lux. Maybe get a point at 4, but it's possible for you to skip it for more burst. You have a lot of kill potential at 6the with your AD.

I still think late game Lux is pretty bad compared to other supports but it isn't total trash and you can probably secure early leads with support Lux relatively easy. Best part of support Lux is using ult to steal enemy blue after you and the AD shove to tower.

On October 09 2012 21:51 clickrush wrote:


ok pretty much everyone agrees that support lux has a strong place early game but does not compare to other supports lategame.

I understand the first part but not the second part. Where does this perception come from? There are a bunch of supports that scale very well into lategame (blitz, janna, soraka) and some who fall off (taric, sona). If we count Lux to the weaker lategamers then is she really worse than sona/taric and why? Isn't her ability to consistently disable and scout with her base abilities something valuable enough? Also her kit allows her to build almost no defense, isn't that something that makes her at least on par with the other not-so-lategameish supports?

On October 09 2012 18:42 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:


you identify most of lux's characteristics and then proceed to suggest doing the exact opposite of what's logical...?

you say she has good ratios, so why are you not building ap? unlikely anivia lux doesnt do damage after ~15 minutes without ap because her base numbers are not anivia level, plus she doesn't bring as much utility as anivia. her shield also scales off ap

early/midgame is where ap lux is amazing, she has one of the highest level 6 bursts in the game and throughout level 11/13 she can one shot a lot of ppl, butyou need to build ap.

in fact, it's her late game where ap lux sucks cause everyone can afford to get hp/mr after getting their damage items and you're not one shotting anyone

building chalice cloak catalyst is just going ot make you useless for 20 minutes, and by the time you get ap, you're still useless cause everyone has mr

getting like 1 of those 3 items situation to help lane is fine but getting more is just killing yourself

her cooldowns are also high enough that you need to be able to devastate with one spell rotation, you cant wait for a second rotation. you're not a sustain caster so high manapool is pointless you just need to get enough regen to get by in lane

On October 10 2012 13:10 Kiarip wrote:


but Lux doesn't have good AP ratios, she has good base damage values, so what's he saying makes sense.

On October 10 2012 13:17 overt wrote:


She does have good ratios. Q and W both have a .7 ratio, E has a .6, R has a .75.

On October 10 2012 13:24 cLutZ wrote:
Why is there a lux in 9/10 of my games these days? Is there some FotM strat guy or is she just the Teemo of Mid?

On October 10 2012 13:17 overt wrote:


She does have good ratios. Q and W both have a .7 ratio, E has a .6, R has a .75.

The reason late game Lux is bad has nothing to do with ratios or base damage. It has everything to do with long CDs combined with the fact that almost no burster is going to be able to 100->0 anyone late game because everyone has built MR and/or health. This includes the AD carry.

On October 10 2012 13:52 Gahlo wrote:


I'm not sure if you're aware, but laser pops her passive and reapplies it. Somebody posted on r/lol that they should make the shield pop her passive on enemies. I think that'd be a cute change.

On October 10 2012 16:11 HaruRH wrote:
Lux is one of my favourite AP mid champions for sure. If you chose lux and was not counterpicked by some mobile champions (ahri, another lux, etc), you would most likely win your lane if you're good. Unless you had a bad day and failed to cast your 'e' properly, you would definitely out-cs your opponent due to the nature of your spells.

Another fun trick i love to use is to duo queue ranked and get your friend to give you blue (only if your jungler is manaless). Then, go and win mid. There's no way any champion can win mid against a Lux with blue at level 1. You just spam E on that poor dude. Once you zoned that guy really heavily (I mean, I have at least 3x more cs than my opponent during 15 minutes), just gank other lanes. Their mid would be useless in mid game and their entire team would most likely crumble under your ganks as a really fat Lux is a really scary one.

On October 10 2012 16:43 BlackPaladin wrote:
Having high cd's isn't the same as having bad AP scaling. If lux had poor ap scaling you wouldn't be building AP on her lol. It's just all her skills have very high cd's so even with 40% cdr once she uses her spells she has to wait 5+ seconds of doing nothing to cast again. It's funny cause it's completely against how riot makes champs now. Like xerath and lux have similar roles of long range ap's, but you can see they are different in design philosophies cause xerath came later and has much lower cd's, which is something riot has outright said they like.