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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 14 2011 03:15 GMT
#41
@ neo- Your jungle path can be improved a little bit. I've actually found that going 20-0-10 cloth+5, then going golems, wraiths, wolves, blue then pilling is possible. The key is that you only alpha strike to conserve mana. Even getting unlucky with procs the 5 hp pots let you live with enough health to get blue and cut one of the backs out of your route.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
February 14 2011 04:07 GMT
#42
On February 14 2011 11:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I do something similar but completely different:

1/8/21
Full Aspd runes
smite/ghost
Cloth Armor + 3 potions
Start Wraiths or wraith jack, either way go wraiths -> wolves -> wraiths -> small golems -> bluepill -> blue buff -> wolves -> wraiths -> small golems -> bluepill -> red buff

Obviously change route to match procs and game flow

Wriggles -> zerks/merc -> situational damage items--sometimes I rush IE, sometimes I go bloodthirster, sometimes I go Ghostblade or BC or LW -> after you got enough offensive items GA/Banshees.

I play a heavy counterjungle style on (all my junglers but especially) Yi, I feel like he brings a lot to the counterjungling game. Your main strat is to hit a gank, clear the lane, take a tower and gtfo.

rock that shit


Woo, same. However, would it significantly matter vs 1/14/15? I often try to second wraith jack because sometimes enemy junglers (usually Amumu/Olaf) will be doing wraiths and I will alpha strike, perhaps getting FB, and stealing wraiths again. After blue usually.
Stuck.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-15 04:13:26
February 15 2011 03:59 GMT
#43
So I've started playing jungle Yi after being forced into picking him when the other team took both my usual junglers (WW and nunu), and I'm really enjoying his clear speed so far.

This is a pic of a recent game I carried, but I'm not posting it to gloat, I wanna know where I could make improvements to my build. I built a starks because I felt like it helped the team out a bit, and gave me some lifesteal that I felt I was lacking. Ideally I would've had mundo build it, but whatever. Should I have built a BT instead or what?

[image loading]

I had enough money to add a new item if I needed to, I just wasn't sure what I should be getting, so your thoughts would be appreciated. So yeah, basically what should a 'infinite money' build for this game have looked like?

Furthermore, in the game my strategy was to pretty much solo push so they were forced to send 2 people to stop me (I could 1v1 anyone on their team), and when for some reason a teamfight broke out when i was around (I have no idea what the teams were fighting over... but that's low elo for ya) I would try and wait for sion stun and blitz silence before dashing in. So how can I improve on that as a strategy?

Also, things like baron and dragon - when (lvl / items) can a Yi reasonably expect to solo dragon quickly?

Thanks for any feedback.

Oh just to further reinforce that I'm not posting to gloat (cause there is nothing to gloat about), they didn't have a jungler, even tho this is a pretty rare occurence. I had a hard time juggling farming both jungles and ganking so that my lanes didn't feed - anyone got any advice in this area? (I don't suppose it's a common problem though).
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 19 2011 11:33 GMT
#44
could someone on US tell me what runes Strelo uses on his master yi? thx
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 13:08:11
February 19 2011 13:02 GMT
#45
On February 14 2011 13:07 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 11:02 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
I do something similar but completely different:

1/8/21
Full Aspd runes
smite/ghost
Cloth Armor + 3 potions
Start Wraiths or wraith jack, either way go wraiths -> wolves -> wraiths -> small golems -> bluepill -> blue buff -> wolves -> wraiths -> small golems -> bluepill -> red buff

Obviously change route to match procs and game flow

Wriggles -> zerks/merc -> situational damage items--sometimes I rush IE, sometimes I go bloodthirster, sometimes I go Ghostblade or BC or LW -> after you got enough offensive items GA/Banshees.

I play a heavy counterjungle style on (all my junglers but especially) Yi, I feel like he brings a lot to the counterjungling game. Your main strat is to hit a gank, clear the lane, take a tower and gtfo.

rock that shit


Woo, same. However, would it significantly matter vs 1/14/15? I often try to second wraith jack because sometimes enemy junglers (usually Amumu/Olaf) will be doing wraiths and I will alpha strike, perhaps getting FB, and stealing wraiths again. After blue usually.

flipping on ghost+ lizard-> alpha strike when they flash or use an escape ability
21 in utility = more deadly ganks, and faster smite cd-> more counterjungling. b/c you dont want to be in enemy jungle for very long.
i use 21 in utility when i rammus, but on a champ like yi i play like my ww, very farm oriented so i go 15/0/15 (ww) 21/0/9(yi)
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-19 13:06:01
February 19 2011 13:03 GMT
#46
On February 19 2011 20:33 freelander wrote:
could someone on US tell me what runes Strelo uses on his master yi? thx

as ylw/quint
armor pen red
mres//lvl blue
21/0/9 and cloth+5 pots i assume
he likes wriggles mercs into a fast zeal or sheen(dunno his reasoning for prefernce)-> trinity
then cleaver or negatron
assuming negatron-> banshees later on but haven't seen anything on match list past that
Strelo -US
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Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 05:20:25
February 24 2011 05:15 GMT
#47
So I bought Yi the other day cuz he's cheap, but I feed massively with DPS Yi. Any tips?

To compensate for my suck I've been going AP Yi and if my teammates notice, they scapegoat me hardcore. As AP Yi, I get the same skill build/masteries [1-8-21] as DPS Yi, except my runes are different and after I get wiggle's I get ionian boots, Deathcap, lichbane, brilliance elixers and then watever. It doesn't seem to slow down my neutralling at all, and in teamfights I survive better. The only real complaint I have with the build is that if I don't get bluebuff (i.e. I let a teammate get it), I feel kinda naked. How is DPS Yi better? Or what should I be doing to play DPS yi better?
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 05:30:00
February 24 2011 05:29 GMT
#48
AP Yi should be 9/0/21 for the CDR and mpen. You don't need strength of spirit because one or two points in meditate will keep you in lane forever. Do not get wriggles (no jungle ap yi), and get sorc boots or merc treads.

That said, AP is more of a troll build. Awesome for laning, and if you get an ult/alpha combo you'll wipe the enemy team, but it's still dangerous.

DPS is all about knowing when to enter a teamfight, and saving alpha strike and meditate for when you get focused. Your staying power comes from cleanse and lifesteal.

(I'm bad yi btw and only ever play AP hahaha)
it's my first day
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-24 06:33:41
February 24 2011 06:32 GMT
#49
I still jungle crazy fast, and steal their buffs and fuck their jungler over, meanwhile, I'm the same level as my teams soloers, and if I bump into someone in the jungle, my first strike does more damage and convinces them to run.... why shouldn't I jungle AP Yi?
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
February 24 2011 07:33 GMT
#50
On February 24 2011 15:32 Tadzio wrote:
I still jungle crazy fast, and steal their buffs and fuck their jungler over, meanwhile, I'm the same level as my teams soloers, and if I bump into someone in the jungle, my first strike does more damage and convinces them to run.... why shouldn't I jungle AP Yi?


AD Yi wants to max QE (which is good for jungling)
AP Yi wants to max QW.

You can do it.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 02:22:02
February 25 2011 02:21 GMT
#51
AP Yi looks like a barrel of fun, and I'd like to try....I did notice after trying it once that after your Q is down you're pretty much useless until it comes back up again (you can meditate but I tend to save it for when I need it). Chasing and DPSing someone down with highlander sucks when you do no autoattack damage....is it worth building him as a hybrid?
Something along the lines of
ring--->boots-->Deathcap/mejai's/huge AP item-->rageblade-->lichbane-->gunblade?
This way your nuke still hits for a lot but you cans till do decent damage by chasing someone down, and even survive a 1v1 with the lifesteal from gunblade.
Not sure of the build order and obviously this needs to be refined a whole bunch, but what say you TL?
Just for funzies?
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-25 03:38:29
February 25 2011 03:20 GMT
#52
AP Yi is a straight up nuker who wants to killsteal with Highlander so he can nuke again. Rageblade and Gunblade are no-no's. No Mejai's because you're going to die eventually from your melee range alpha strike. Lichbane is OK because you end up right next to your target for the proc.

Dring -> Sorc Boots -> Deathcap -> Zhonyas -> Lichbane // Void Staff.
9/0/21 mpen/mp5plvl/ap plvl/ap

if you build hybrid you end up sucking at both dps and nuking - you choose one or the other


also on that note, the biggest reason why AP Yi is a joke build is the killstealing and farming tons of cs to turn it into massive unreliable damage and zero utility. At least Annie can stun.
it's my first day
Tadzio
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
3340 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-26 09:28:50
February 26 2011 09:28 GMT
#53
so far what I've been doing is cloth armor -> first attack item -> mordreds + ionian boots -> any item that does execess damage. I do run away from pure team buids that scare me
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
February 26 2011 10:55 GMT
#54
AP yi can't really backdoor. Huge disadvantage compared to his AD counterpart
My whole ad game revolves around it.
And all is illuminated.
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 10 2011 03:49 GMT
#55
I'm surprised by the builds that are considered "standard" on yi.

On my smurf I usually go wriggles triforce, getting mercs before triforce and wits end if casters are being annoying. Otherwise wriggles atmogs. Jungling with no masteries is a pain tho, I might try wriggles ghostblade sotd but I always know my team is going to get raped horribly whenever I abandom them. Probably too much smurfing.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 03:52:10
July 10 2011 03:51 GMT
#56
On July 10 2011 12:49 r33k wrote:
I'm surprised by the builds that are considered "standard" on yi.

On my smurf I usually go wriggles triforce, getting mercs before triforce and wits end if casters are being annoying. Otherwise wriggles atmogs. Jungling with no masteries is a pain tho, I might try wriggles ghostblade sotd but I always know my team is going to get raped horribly whenever I abandom them. Probably too much smurfing.

Why triforce? Yi doesn't really spam skills for the triforce proc does he? And the triforce proc doesn't amplify the damage from his passive right?
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
July 10 2011 04:35 GMT
#57
On July 10 2011 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:49 r33k wrote:
I'm surprised by the builds that are considered "standard" on yi.

On my smurf I usually go wriggles triforce, getting mercs before triforce and wits end if casters are being annoying. Otherwise wriggles atmogs. Jungling with no masteries is a pain tho, I might try wriggles ghostblade sotd but I always know my team is going to get raped horribly whenever I abandom them. Probably too much smurfing.

Why triforce? Yi doesn't really spam skills for the triforce proc does he? And the triforce proc doesn't amplify the damage from his passive right?

It has ms a slow some mana and some ap. All stuff that I end up needing.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-10 06:38:57
July 10 2011 06:38 GMT
#58
On July 10 2011 12:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:49 r33k wrote:
I'm surprised by the builds that are considered "standard" on yi.

On my smurf I usually go wriggles triforce, getting mercs before triforce and wits end if casters are being annoying. Otherwise wriggles atmogs. Jungling with no masteries is a pain tho, I might try wriggles ghostblade sotd but I always know my team is going to get raped horribly whenever I abandom them. Probably too much smurfing.

Why triforce? Yi doesn't really spam skills for the triforce proc does he? And the triforce proc doesn't amplify the damage from his passive right?

Against anyone that really knows what they're doing, you pretty much have to play like an anti-carry in fights anyway (and outside of fights, Triforce's MS/proc makes it great for split-pushing), which means Triforce's front-loaded damage is what you want, and not the sustained damage from other items. If you blow up their carry in one round of QER, your CDs will reset, giving you another round of Triforce procs. And if you can't blow them up in one round QER, you're probably screwed either way and having more sustained-damage items probably wouldn't help you.
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Vei
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2845 Posts
July 20 2011 03:31 GMT
#59
Just used your jungle route + skill order + runes as best I could (aka 5 a/s marks...) and had the best Yi game of my life.. I really like the jungle route -- too bad mid stole exp from my wraiths and me being lvl2 vs blue golem led to my death >__>

but yeah. thanks for the guide. i went for a different item route (the lifesteal thing that builds into stark's, then brutalizer then ghostblade) and it worked out ok but it was just pubstompin' so yeah.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
July 20 2011 06:37 GMT
#60
What I don't get is for Yi... Why start golems and not wolves? Wolves first allows for such a quick leveling process (second round is blue -> full clear and you almost ding 6 from it) which Yi needs pretty badly.

Even better is starting enemy wraiths -> wolves -> wraiths, however you won't have smite up for your wraiths and people actually defend wraiths nowadays. >_>
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