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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 13:47:33
May 03 2014 13:47 GMT
#361
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
derc
Profile Joined November 2011
France126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 19:14:19
May 03 2014 19:13 GMT
#362
Keep all your stuns for him in a teamfight, and burst him down.
My main weapons vs yi pick is : high burst dmg champ with lots of cc in lanes (no nida/no nasus/no cait/no graves/ no soraka ...) AND i pick xin jungle, so i can make a lot more efficient early ganks and i'm also able to crush him 1v1 at any point of the game (even if he has like 3 or 4 more kill than me). Of course don't build xin tanky in soloQ, it needs to have good teammates to work, build him 80%dmg 20%survive the initiale stun/burst.
Yi can't win this if your team is playing safe.
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-03 21:24:04
May 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#363
When enemy picks Yi, I know they're a dumb feral abuser cunt and i smash them in with champs I actually know how to play

Good strat imo

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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
May 04 2014 02:13 GMT
#364
On May 04 2014 04:13 derc wrote:
Keep all your stuns for him in a teamfight, and burst him down.
My main weapons vs yi pick is : high burst dmg champ with lots of cc in lanes (no nida/no nasus/no cait/no graves/ no soraka ...) AND i pick xin jungle, so i can make a lot more efficient early ganks and i'm also able to crush him 1v1 at any point of the game (even if he has like 3 or 4 more kill than me). Of course don't build xin tanky in soloQ, it needs to have good teammates to work, build him 80%dmg 20%survive the initiale stun/burst.
Yi can't win this if your team is playing safe.


imo there needs to be more item abilities to deal with stuff like jungle yi. item actives have been notoriously underwhelming, particularly lacking in good cc
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-04 08:19:00
May 04 2014 07:30 GMT
#365
On May 04 2014 11:13 Lightswarm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 04:13 derc wrote:
Keep all your stuns for him in a teamfight, and burst him down.
My main weapons vs yi pick is : high burst dmg champ with lots of cc in lanes (no nida/no nasus/no cait/no graves/ no soraka ...) AND i pick xin jungle, so i can make a lot more efficient early ganks and i'm also able to crush him 1v1 at any point of the game (even if he has like 3 or 4 more kill than me). Of course don't build xin tanky in soloQ, it needs to have good teammates to work, build him 80%dmg 20%survive the initiale stun/burst.
Yi can't win this if your team is playing safe.


imo there needs to be more item abilities to deal with stuff like jungle yi. item actives have been notoriously underwhelming, particularly lacking in good cc

Can I kindly request that at least in strategy forum we avoid balance/design whine, for my sanity's sake.

I would however question the idea that Xin beats Yi 1v1, that is simply not the case from my experience.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Acertos
Profile Joined February 2012
France852 Posts
May 04 2014 15:00 GMT
#366
On May 04 2014 16:30 Scip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2014 11:13 Lightswarm wrote:
On May 04 2014 04:13 derc wrote:
Keep all your stuns for him in a teamfight, and burst him down.
My main weapons vs yi pick is : high burst dmg champ with lots of cc in lanes (no nida/no nasus/no cait/no graves/ no soraka ...) AND i pick xin jungle, so i can make a lot more efficient early ganks and i'm also able to crush him 1v1 at any point of the game (even if he has like 3 or 4 more kill than me). Of course don't build xin tanky in soloQ, it needs to have good teammates to work, build him 80%dmg 20%survive the initiale stun/burst.
Yi can't win this if your team is playing safe.


imo there needs to be more item abilities to deal with stuff like jungle yi. item actives have been notoriously underwhelming, particularly lacking in good cc

Can I kindly request that at least in strategy forum we avoid balance/design whine, for my sanity's sake.

I would however question the idea that Xin beats Yi 1v1, that is simply not the case from my experience.

From my experience yi with feral flare has a huge power spike during mid-game and he can even if not rly fed, 1v1 every single champion except a few who have high burst and a stun.
Without stuns it's almost impossible to kill even in 1v2.
To me, with Udyr, he is right now one of the two most broken champs atm as he can't be rly punished in every phase of the game (ez to escape, can't be 1v1 in jungle), and also extremely easy to play. Now he is worse than the Vi of a few months back in those aspects.
entropius
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1046 Posts
May 04 2014 15:57 GMT
#367
Things are even worse now that champion design has moved away from point-and-click CC to skillshots; Yi's immunity to slows, insane movespeed, and random teleport/invincibility with Alpha Strike means that, essentially, you can't hit him with skillshots.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 04 2014 17:32 GMT
#368
On May 05 2014 00:57 entropius wrote:
Things are even worse now that champion design has moved away from point-and-click CC to skillshots; Yi's immunity to slows, insane movespeed, and random teleport/invincibility with Alpha Strike means that, essentially, you can't hit him with skillshots.


Which is also why things like Amumu/WW are great against Yi. It's pretty much fail safe.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
May 05 2014 02:40 GMT
#369
lol, if u put up amumu/ww jg against yi jg ur gonna have a bad time
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Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-05 12:06:51
May 05 2014 10:53 GMT
#370
sona upp, ww jungle = dead yi?

in my experience Shyvana with FF can 1v1 yi pretty good
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
May 06 2014 06:28 GMT
#371
On May 05 2014 19:53 Pulimuli wrote:
sona upp, ww jungle = dead yi?

in my experience Shyvana with FF can 1v1 yi pretty good

FF Aatrox can go mano e mano with Yi as well.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
May 06 2014 10:57 GMT
#372
FF Xin 1v1 Yi works as well.
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Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
May 20 2014 02:49 GMT
#373
out of curiosity, how fast are you guys getting your items up on yi jg. for me, FF comes up at around 17 min (15 min if i have kills). I typically have enough for 2.5-3 core items (FF/ghost/cutlass) around the 22-25 min mark
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
May 20 2014 03:40 GMT
#374
I feel that getting close to 20 stacks by 10 minutes is not too difficult at all. The other 10 stacks will take some effort because I will be "distracted" by things such as dragons and tower sieges, so it largely varies.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 20 2014 11:24 GMT
#375
Just don't make it into flare too early, you want to get bork before you even think about transforming it imo
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Earthqu4ke
Profile Joined April 2014
Switzerland16 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-20 11:41:52
May 20 2014 11:38 GMT
#376
I like to smash jngl yi with Trundle. Moreover i always mostly go for a earlyganker when I have to jngl vs feral flare newbs, my favorite atm is Eve. We often end up with a huge earlygame Advantage through kills, first drake and so on. If you've done a good Job, the opponent team will immediately start flaming their jngler since he'll never appear early on! :D
But as I figured out, you really need to take the advantage early on, if you mess up you're pretty **** later. So you either go for a super aggressive early-mid game comb and try to win super fast, or you get an earlyganker with at least a Jax or similar champs and help to feed them. Or you go for a ff-champ too and....yeah. I just don't like it, way too boring for my gamestyle.

In the end it's the usual thing, you just need to adapt to be succesful. Sry for bringing this discussion back, wasn't able to write about the ff-stuff above since I almost never use it.
"They've told me that dreams become true, but forgot to mention that nightmares are dreams, too.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
May 20 2014 12:11 GMT
#377
I recently play gragas in the jungle from time to time, if yi alphas you und you bodyslam anywhere he is hit and cced, brought him into my team twice for instakill xD (i know very specific matchup but fun none the less)
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
May 20 2014 21:44 GMT
#378
On May 20 2014 20:38 Earthqu4ke wrote:
I like to smash jngl yi with Trundle. Moreover i always mostly go for a earlyganker when I have to jngl vs feral flare newbs, my favorite atm is Eve. We often end up with a huge earlygame Advantage through kills, first drake and so on. If you've done a good Job, the opponent team will immediately start flaming their jngler since he'll never appear early on! :D
But as I figured out, you really need to take the advantage early on, if you mess up you're pretty **** later. So you either go for a super aggressive early-mid game comb and try to win super fast, or you get an earlyganker with at least a Jax or similar champs and help to feed them. Or you go for a ff-champ too and....yeah. I just don't like it, way too boring for my gamestyle.

In the end it's the usual thing, you just need to adapt to be succesful. Sry for bringing this discussion back, wasn't able to write about the ff-stuff above since I almost never use it.

How does Trundle beat Yi with a Flare again?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Lightswarm
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada966 Posts
May 20 2014 22:42 GMT
#379
On May 21 2014 06:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 20:38 Earthqu4ke wrote:
I like to smash jngl yi with Trundle. Moreover i always mostly go for a earlyganker when I have to jngl vs feral flare newbs, my favorite atm is Eve. We often end up with a huge earlygame Advantage through kills, first drake and so on. If you've done a good Job, the opponent team will immediately start flaming their jngler since he'll never appear early on! :D
But as I figured out, you really need to take the advantage early on, if you mess up you're pretty **** later. So you either go for a super aggressive early-mid game comb and try to win super fast, or you get an earlyganker with at least a Jax or similar champs and help to feed them. Or you go for a ff-champ too and....yeah. I just don't like it, way too boring for my gamestyle.

In the end it's the usual thing, you just need to adapt to be succesful. Sry for bringing this discussion back, wasn't able to write about the ff-stuff above since I almost never use it.

How does Trundle beat Yi with a Flare again?


Beat yi early game (ie before 2-3 items up). Do not let yi get 5-6 items on you
Team[AoV]
Earthqu4ke
Profile Joined April 2014
Switzerland16 Posts
May 21 2014 06:22 GMT
#380
On May 21 2014 06:44 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2014 20:38 Earthqu4ke wrote:
I like to smash jngl yi with Trundle. Moreover i always mostly go for a earlyganker when I have to jngl vs feral flare newbs, my favorite atm is Eve. We often end up with a huge earlygame Advantage through kills, first drake and so on. If you've done a good Job, the opponent team will immediately start flaming their jngler since he'll never appear early on! :D
But as I figured out, you really need to take the advantage early on, if you mess up you're pretty **** later. So you either go for a super aggressive early-mid game comb and try to win super fast, or you get an earlyganker with at least a Jax or similar champs and help to feed them. Or you go for a ff-champ too and....yeah. I just don't like it, way too boring for my gamestyle.

In the end it's the usual thing, you just need to adapt to be succesful. Sry for bringing this discussion back, wasn't able to write about the ff-stuff above since I almost never use it.

How does Trundle beat Yi with a Flare again?


Botrk + sunfire + ulti = gg wp. I'm talking as top Trundle, not jungle.
"They've told me that dreams become true, but forgot to mention that nightmares are dreams, too.
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