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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 06:29:10
August 11 2013 21:44 GMT
#321
How many times are you realistically going to be fighting them in a 1v2 situation with all of their skills still up? How does BotRK fix any of that if you get cced immediately after leaving alpha strike? Your primary target is probably out of range by the time you could use the active, especially if it's in a gank situation in bottom lane.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 14:19:03
August 12 2013 05:06 GMT
#322
Well, why not get Cutlass and just leave it at that for a while? The upgrade to bork is 1800, that's a lot of fuckin money. Why not use it for a Tiamat/BF (depending on if you want Hydra or BT) or start your Ghostblade? It's not like Cutlass is terrible on its own, and the big reason to get BorK is the active anyway.

Is there something I'm missing? Cutlass is 1400 iirc.

Edit: zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 12 2013 05:31 GMT
#323
I'm not sure how that relates but a pickaxe is 875.
Carrilord has arrived.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
August 12 2013 05:39 GMT
#324
i wouldn't be surprised if starting the game with cutlass, tiamat, and brutalizer was viable.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 12 2013 11:33 GMT
#325
cutlass is wasted money
Carrilord has arrived.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 12 2013 11:59 GMT
#326
It's not wasted, but it is situational.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
August 12 2013 14:17 GMT
#327
Poor wording, and meant Cutlass -_-

*fixes*
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-12 19:46:00
August 12 2013 19:45 GMT
#328
On August 12 2013 23:17 VashTS wrote:
Poor wording, and meant Cutlass -_-

*fixes*

I just thought u were a noob instead :p.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-13 01:55:31
August 13 2013 01:21 GMT
#329
On August 13 2013 03:47 Seuss wrote:
I previously had done some math which showed Master Yi doing 650+ damage with Alpha Strike crits via IE. Upon doing some testing I've discovered I was wrong.

Alpha Strike does damage equal to 60% of your AD on a "crit", not 60% of Alpha Strike's normal damage. As a result, the damage from an Alpha Strike crit is "only" 550-600 with just IE.

(55+3*18+70)AD*(1+.9)+165ADRatio~505
(55+3+18*70)AD*(1)+165~344 on non crits (75% of the time).

Both numbers are pretty bonkers for a skill that resets like Yi's.
I guess you must have counted the crit mastery and one set of AD runes or something.
The old Q definitely had more burst early on with 300 magic damage for AD Yi. I always felt that was a weakness of Yi's was that he'd never have good burst.
Now, if he gets enough AD he's going to burst hard too? That's not right. Well I dunno, I guess the burst is only slightly higher than Tryn's or Fiora's before their autos start destroying. The resets and the fact that it's an easy to land AoE just make it seem stronger than the counterpart abilities now that it has so much AD scaling.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
August 13 2013 19:38 GMT
#330
On August 13 2013 04:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 23:17 VashTS wrote:
Poor wording, and meant Cutlass -_-

*fixes*

I just thought u were a noob instead :p.

It's ok, I am pretty bad. Only gold league because I can't carry hard enough. =(
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 13 2013 19:59 GMT
#331
On August 14 2013 04:38 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2013 04:45 obesechicken13 wrote:
On August 12 2013 23:17 VashTS wrote:
Poor wording, and meant Cutlass -_-

*fixes*

I just thought u were a noob instead :p.

It's ok, I am pretty bad. Only gold league because I can't carry hard enough. =(

Fk... I mean. Yeah, pshh only gold?

Supernatural reflexes are a bit unfair though.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
August 13 2013 22:42 GMT
#332
idk, I can dodge a lot of shit with that Q. On the list so far is Annie ult, Taric E, Lulu W, Zac E, and a bunch of other crap. Reportedly somebody dodged a Rammus Taunt (E?) as well. Counterplay OP.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 14 2013 02:01 GMT
#333
On August 14 2013 07:42 VashTS wrote:
idk, I can dodge a lot of shit with that Q. On the list so far is Annie ult, Taric E, Lulu W, Zac E, and a bunch of other crap. Reportedly somebody dodged a Rammus Taunt (E?) as well. Counterplay OP.

Was his name Knives?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Klonopin
Profile Joined July 2013
95 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 00:24:26
August 19 2013 00:23 GMT
#334
ghostblade, shiv, ie my new yi go-to build.

so fun haha. i run ghost too, so ghostblade + ult + ghost and you can catch anything.
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
August 19 2013 17:44 GMT
#335
On August 19 2013 09:23 Klonopin wrote:
ghostblade, shiv, ie my new yi go-to build.

so fun haha. i run ghost too, so ghostblade + ult + ghost and you can catch anything.



I just chased a tryndamere from my mid inhib to their top inner turret. He had 10 seconds to get away before I spawned, still got him: Race car yi op
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-19 19:33:36
August 19 2013 19:32 GMT
#336
When you just kinda press Q while running directly at someone (very fast), especially at lower elo, they unload their CC when you get into range, and if your range is anything close to their range, you begin alpha strike before the CC lands. No skill involved, their CC whiffs. I've missed more than a few Lulu polymorphs and other CC due to this, now i just exhaust first, and i don't use any hard CC until after he gets one alpha off.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
August 26 2013 03:44 GMT
#337
So with Yi, if you Q a minion, then smite the minion, you will return to your original position and get some damage on up to 3 targets behind the minion. This could be useful knowledge for jungle Yi. I've been aware that you don't teleport if your target dies before the Q animation ends, but to be able to reliably cause Q harass safely is really good.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
August 26 2013 05:27 GMT
#338
On August 26 2013 12:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
So with Yi, if you Q a minion, then smite the minion, you will return to your original position and get some damage on up to 3 targets behind the minion. This could be useful knowledge for jungle Yi. I've been aware that you don't teleport if your target dies before the Q animation ends, but to be able to reliably cause Q harass safely is really good.

It's always been like this. It was part of what made AP Yi really annoying to deal with in lane on top of his insane W sustain.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-26 17:18:03
August 26 2013 17:17 GMT
#339
On August 26 2013 14:27 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2013 12:44 obesechicken13 wrote:
So with Yi, if you Q a minion, then smite the minion, you will return to your original position and get some damage on up to 3 targets behind the minion. This could be useful knowledge for jungle Yi. I've been aware that you don't teleport if your target dies before the Q animation ends, but to be able to reliably cause Q harass safely is really good.

It's always been like this. It was part of what made AP Yi really annoying to deal with in lane on top of his insane W sustain.

I know.

Smite makes it much more reliable and easier to harass when you don't have that perfect minion to Q to.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
RelZo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hungary397 Posts
August 26 2013 20:21 GMT
#340
Does it ever worth it to get BotRK over BT post-nerf?
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