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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 17 2013 07:34 GMT
#921
So after the sustain nerfs, starting brave ring is no longer viable :/

Top nunu is still viable tho
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 17 2013 13:25 GMT
#922
He's pretty beast in the jungle now. Tried a custom and managed a 3.50 time for lvl 4. His counter-jungling potential seems rather high since you can QE the big minions rather easily and very early on.
hi
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 18 2013 10:22 GMT
#923
So, as it turns out, keeping the core build intact has been more successful, rather than not. If you really need sustain, wraith stone fills in the gap more than enough from the sustain nerf. I also still buy health items especially now that nunu gets a magic atma's and 10% bonus health.

On a side note, not sure who thought giving nunu 10% bonus health (the champ with highest base health @ 18), shureyla's on minion kill, and magic atma's was a good idea, especially since lane nunu can abuse them after early game. 1000 damage on Q also makes it really hard to miss early baron/dragon attempts.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 18 2013 13:48 GMT
#924
That's the point, Smite was buffed to 1k because Feast would do more otherwise.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
May 18 2013 15:53 GMT
#925
On May 18 2013 19:22 101toss wrote:
So, as it turns out, keeping the core build intact has been more successful, rather than not. If you really need sustain, wraith stone fills in the gap more than enough from the sustain nerf. I also still buy health items especially now that nunu gets a magic atma's and 10% bonus health.

On a side note, not sure who thought giving nunu 10% bonus health (the champ with highest base health @ 18), shureyla's on minion kill, and magic atma's was a good idea, especially since lane nunu can abuse them after early game. 1000 damage on Q also makes it really hard to miss early baron/dragon attempts.

Could you please go into a little into your build path? I find myself building random parts of the core since I fail to prioritize what's important.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 18:25:41
May 18 2013 18:23 GMT
#926
You can probably not run smite on jungle Nunu since he has so much sustain. Getting smite means you take less damage from the camps so your Q isn't even healing you anymore since you're already full.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 18 2013 19:23 GMT
#927
On May 19 2013 00:53 affinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2013 19:22 101toss wrote:
So, as it turns out, keeping the core build intact has been more successful, rather than not. If you really need sustain, wraith stone fills in the gap more than enough from the sustain nerf. I also still buy health items especially now that nunu gets a magic atma's and 10% bonus health.

On a side note, not sure who thought giving nunu 10% bonus health (the champ with highest base health @ 18), shureyla's on minion kill, and magic atma's was a good idea, especially since lane nunu can abuse them after early game. 1000 damage on Q also makes it really hard to miss early baron/dragon attempts.

Could you please go into a little into your build path? I find myself building random parts of the core since I fail to prioritize what's important.



I'll try to answer for 101toss, hope you're ok with that :p


Mainly you should be getting a core of spirit of the spectral wraith, Locket and Runic with either boots5/mercs/tabi. Get boots5 in those situations where you wanna keep high pressure with an early lead.

Get spirit asap if you're snowballing, otherwise keep it as a spirit stone and get either locket or runic first. Since you'll only have 20% cdr (assuming 0/21/9 which is arguably the best masteries for jungle nunu) with locket and spectral, you can opt for either Spirit Visage, Grail or Frozen Heart as luxury item. Most games will be decided before you finish your luxury items, so any additional items beyond this point is situational.
hi
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
May 18 2013 20:32 GMT
#928
Nunu tier 1 jungler, counter jungle capability extremely crippling against junglers who are weak early game.
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
May 18 2013 20:45 GMT
#929
On May 19 2013 04:23 Sponkz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 00:53 affinity wrote:
On May 18 2013 19:22 101toss wrote:
So, as it turns out, keeping the core build intact has been more successful, rather than not. If you really need sustain, wraith stone fills in the gap more than enough from the sustain nerf. I also still buy health items especially now that nunu gets a magic atma's and 10% bonus health.

On a side note, not sure who thought giving nunu 10% bonus health (the champ with highest base health @ 18), shureyla's on minion kill, and magic atma's was a good idea, especially since lane nunu can abuse them after early game. 1000 damage on Q also makes it really hard to miss early baron/dragon attempts.

Could you please go into a little into your build path? I find myself building random parts of the core since I fail to prioritize what's important.



I'll try to answer for 101toss, hope you're ok with that :p


Mainly you should be getting a core of spirit of the spectral wraith, Locket and Runic with either boots5/mercs/tabi. Get boots5 in those situations where you wanna keep high pressure with an early lead.

Get spirit asap if you're snowballing, otherwise keep it as a spirit stone and get either locket or runic first. Since you'll only have 20% cdr (assuming 0/21/9 which is arguably the best masteries for jungle nunu) with locket and spectral, you can opt for either Spirit Visage, Grail or Frozen Heart as luxury item. Most games will be decided before you finish your luxury items, so any additional items beyond this point is situational.

Sure, thanks! Are you talking about nunu top, though? I always figured rushing chalice (or getting at least some of mana regen) was vital to being a huge asshole in lane. With the sustain nerfs, I figured building tabis or revolver might be situationally better, though.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 18 2013 21:07 GMT
#930
When does nunu not snowball?
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-18 22:09:03
May 18 2013 22:06 GMT
#931
On May 19 2013 06:07 obesechicken13 wrote:
When does nunu not snowball?

When he gets camped or when you misplay vs an all-in and die early. This is easily resolved by just farming under tower and taking a few more points in Q early (early revolver works well). Unless you were talking about the literal sense, in which harhar, never heard that one before.

On May 19 2013 05:45 affinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2013 04:23 Sponkz wrote:
On May 19 2013 00:53 affinity wrote:
On May 18 2013 19:22 101toss wrote:
So, as it turns out, keeping the core build intact has been more successful, rather than not. If you really need sustain, wraith stone fills in the gap more than enough from the sustain nerf. I also still buy health items especially now that nunu gets a magic atma's and 10% bonus health.

On a side note, not sure who thought giving nunu 10% bonus health (the champ with highest base health @ 18), shureyla's on minion kill, and magic atma's was a good idea, especially since lane nunu can abuse them after early game. 1000 damage on Q also makes it really hard to miss early baron/dragon attempts.

Could you please go into a little into your build path? I find myself building random parts of the core since I fail to prioritize what's important.



I'll try to answer for 101toss, hope you're ok with that :p


Mainly you should be getting a core of spirit of the spectral wraith, Locket and Runic with either boots5/mercs/tabi. Get boots5 in those situations where you wanna keep high pressure with an early lead.

Get spirit asap if you're snowballing, otherwise keep it as a spirit stone and get either locket or runic first. Since you'll only have 20% cdr (assuming 0/21/9 which is arguably the best masteries for jungle nunu) with locket and spectral, you can opt for either Spirit Visage, Grail or Frozen Heart as luxury item. Most games will be decided before you finish your luxury items, so any additional items beyond this point is situational.

Sure, thanks! Are you talking about nunu top, though? I always figured rushing chalice (or getting at least some of mana regen) was vital to being a huge asshole in lane. With the sustain nerfs, I figured building tabis or revolver might be situationally better, though.

He's talking about jungle nunu. Rushing chalice is fine vs ap, but vs ad, you usually want to build armguard/dodge boots before getting chalice/grail. Add drings as needed. Grail/locket are your core if you're getting 10 cdr from another source, otherwise you can have grail/locket/wraithstone or grail/SV depending on the enemy comp.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 19 2013 02:40 GMT
#932
Sample build:

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I almost broke my back carrying this team
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 20 2013 08:44 GMT
#933
Anyone with some support Nunu tips for builds/playstyle etc? Support is my weakest role and I can't seem to get much consistency with anyone other than Soraka, who feels really weak vs all the Thresh/Lulu/Janna picks in my bracket range. I thought Nunu might be worth trying, but so far it feels really weird playing him without any AP items.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 20 2013 10:48 GMT
#934
hover over your carry and press w
hover over their carry and press e

that's support nunu for you
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
May 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#935
On May 20 2013 19:48 greggy wrote:
hover over your carry and press w
hover over their carry and press e

that's support nunu for you

as of this patch eating golems is pretty good too
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 20 2013 20:30 GMT
#936
Looking at nunu's base hp, 437, plus his per level bonus's, 108, plus the 108 and 30 from masteries, and the golem buff, puts his "base" hp at lvl 18 at 2770. The eHp charts are all based around 3000 hp, so nunu doesn't really need to buy hp. With nunu's w duration nerf, he really needs cdr, so spirit golem + FH extremely good items. I was getting razor, because nunu's clear time went into the toilet, but with leveling q over w it stays super fast.

Also, the two small guys are blue camp are lizards, so you can get both the good buffs from one camp.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
May 20 2013 23:37 GMT
#937
yes but you're not going to reach level 18 in any reasonable timeframe if you're jungle/support and most good cdr items build from kindlegem anyway (barring frozen heart, i guess).
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
May 21 2013 03:01 GMT
#938
How are people skilling new Nunu?

It used to be E>W>Q which gave you pretty good ganks and then by midgame you have enough pts in W to just make your ADC awesome.

Q>E>W now? Just 3 pts in Q then E>W (gives an extra 2 pts in W for midgame)

Q, W, E all have great scaling with levels in the skill no more 1 pt wonders D:
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
May 21 2013 03:24 GMT
#939
this is kind of hilarious and its something that i dont think most people take advantage of, but nunu heals a stupid amount with his ult with spectral wraith. i've had absolutely stupid bushwhack ults where i"get caught" run into a bush with like 10% hp and ult, and all of a sudden me and the enemy team swap hp bars.
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Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
May 22 2013 09:43 GMT
#940
[image loading]


So i finally got the time, to try out some games with Nunu jungle and so far the result has been a success. 0/21/9, as marks, armor seals, mres/lvl glyphs and MS quints with locket -> spectral wraith -> runic as a core. I typically go QWEE, R > E > Q > W but if i were to invade at enemy red i'd go QEEW cus you'll have a much higher chance at killing or forcing a flash on the enemy jungle, should you be successful in your steal.


Also yay reached plat 3 going 2-0. Gonna abuse the hell out of Nunu before people realize and he's gonna get banned every game.
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