EPT[Champion] Nunu - Page 48
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101toss
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 23 2013 02:02 KevinIX wrote: What do you guys think about support Nunu? Is support Nunu still viable? It seems like the latest patch was a bit of a nerf to a support Nunu who already is a bit on the weak side of things since his earlier nerfs. I dislike him from playing him, having him, and playing against him. He's boring to lane with/as, because he just turns every lane into a farm fest (you can't really fight someone with a Nunu). Late game, he's really just kind of boring since he's a W bot with some slows. Overshadowed by most supports, imo. More fun jungle/top :3 | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
does have some interesting level 1 cheese potential | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On May 21 2013 12:01 xes wrote: How are people skilling new Nunu? It used to be E>W>Q which gave you pretty good ganks and then by midgame you have enough pts in W to just make your ADC awesome. Q>E>W now? Just 3 pts in Q then E>W (gives an extra 2 pts in W for midgame) Q, W, E all have great scaling with levels in the skill no more 1 pt wonders D: W's scaling is horrible. You used to get 10% as per level, now you're getting 5%. The differences in MS is about 16. After the support nunu nerfs my r>e>w>q led to many losses because my teams were fucking terrible. You really need the faster jungling as far as I'm concerned. Q scales super well now instead of being completely worthless after the first point, and useful at the last point. If the jungle camp spawn changes go to 1:55 like on the PBE, red invades all fucking day, just like in S2. I need to get in more games though, going -16 in just a week or two because of complete retards is really frustrating. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On May 23 2013 09:47 SnK-Arcbound wrote: W's scaling is horrible. You used to get 10% as per level, now you're getting 5%. The differences in MS is about 16. After the support nunu nerfs my r>e>w>q led to many losses because my teams were fucking terrible. You really need the faster jungling as far as I'm concerned. Q scales super well now instead of being completely worthless after the first point, and useful at the last point. If the jungle camp spawn changes go to 1:55 like on the PBE, red invades all fucking day, just like in S2. I need to get in more games though, going -16 in just a week or two because of complete retards is really frustrating. agreed that you should be maxing q for jungle yeti, you clear massively and there's also a lot of utility on it i've been running a health stack oriented build: start philo parts/3, rush philo into warmogs, then locket, bulwark, shurelyas, and randuins or sv. can easily break 5k hp, and once you finish warmogs you can tower dive all day. bonus points if you are ahead enough to convert the philo into ohmwrecker for moar lulz | ||
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OmegaKnetus
Germany431 Posts
I feel like I do no damage and even with a ton of defences or hp you die pretty quickly. Doesnt help that you only have one offensive spell and your ult is a giant "pls cc me" sign. Any tips on being usefull later on? | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6184 Posts
On May 23 2013 18:38 OmegaKnetus wrote: Hi, I've picked up nunu as he is rather cheap and played some jungle games. I feel like he is really strong early game with sick ganks, but you fall off massively lategame. I feel like I do no damage and even with a ton of defences or hp you die pretty quickly. Doesnt help that you only have one offensive spell and your ult is a giant "pls cc me" sign. Any tips on being usefull later on? BB your ADC and be a tanky nunu but your goal should get your lane to snowball so late game is a piece of cake =] | ||
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upperbound
United States2300 Posts
On May 23 2013 19:35 FaCE_1 wrote: BB your ADC and be a tanky nunu but your goal should get your lane to snowball so late game is a piece of cake =] With a Nunu lane, there's always a snowball  Edit: as far as damage, spectral wraith goes a long way. The new Nunu consume incentivizes building spellvamo even more, and even a small bit of ap helps a lot on snowball and ult damage due to the ratios. The next priority is CDR so you can be disrupting their autoattacker and buffing yours with as close to 100% uptime as possible. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On May 23 2013 12:43 101toss wrote: agreed that you should be maxing q for jungle yeti, you clear massively and there's also a lot of utility on it i've been running a health stack oriented build: start philo parts/3, rush philo into warmogs, then locket, bulwark, shurelyas, and randuins or sv. can easily break 5k hp, and once you finish warmogs you can tower dive all day. bonus points if you are ahead enough to convert the philo into ohmwrecker for moar lulz I feel that if you max Q your ganks are gonna be weak. His E is the strongest in his kit at the moment (aside from the buffs you get from jungle). Nunu's main issue in the jungle is not so much the bigger creeps as the smaller ones, and maxing Q does not solve the problem. With his passive you should be able to get 1-2 free ice blasts off on most jungle camps anyways. Why don't you wanna get spectral wraith? I feel like the spirit stone upgrades are a must on most junglers, though more than often you won't be allowed to rush it asap, since it'll make you too squishy, but the passive gains is a must-have for mid/late-game imo. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On May 24 2013 00:04 Sponkz wrote: I feel that if you max Q your ganks are gonna be weak. His E is the strongest in his kit at the moment (aside from the buffs you get from jungle). Nunu's main issue in the jungle is not so much the bigger creeps as the smaller ones, and maxing Q does not solve the problem. With his passive you should be able to get 1-2 free ice blasts off on most jungle camps anyways. Why don't you wanna get spectral wraith? I feel like the spirit stone upgrades are a must on most junglers, though more than often you won't be allowed to rush it asap, since it'll make you too squishy, but the passive gains is a must-have for mid/late-game imo. I also misread that, he didn't say to max q first (which is what I read even though he didn't say that), but that you should max q now. I used to do the HP stack on nunu, but I would always get fucking destroyed, especially with people incorrectly going botrk first item. With people going back to tanky junglers, I've returned to anti carry build, I go play with their ad carry and push him out of the fight while he does no damage to me. At the same time I almost always pull their support and someone else, while their jungler and possibly top lane gets to deal with a bb ad. I also have no interest in getting spectral wraith. Nunu doesn't have sustain problems, only mana problems. And he needs to get tanky asap because he isn't that disruptive with cc in teamfights. After snowball, and if your ult is interrupted, you have nothing to do for 4-6 seconds depending on your cdr. And this happens whenever your snowball is on cd. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On May 24 2013 04:47 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I also misread that, he didn't say to max q first (which is what I read even though he didn't say that), but that you should max q now. I used to do the HP stack on nunu, but I would always get fucking destroyed, especially with people incorrectly going botrk first item. With people going back to tanky junglers, I've returned to anti carry build, I go play with their ad carry and push him out of the fight while he does no damage to me. At the same time I almost always pull their support and someone else, while their jungler and possibly top lane gets to deal with a bb ad. I also have no interest in getting spectral wraith. Nunu doesn't have sustain problems, only mana problems. And he needs to get tanky asap because he isn't that disruptive with cc in teamfights. After snowball, and if your ult is interrupted, you have nothing to do for 4-6 seconds depending on your cdr. And this happens whenever your snowball is on cd. Health-stacking has its uses (especially if enemy AD gets fed and rushes BT, and they don't have other bork users on the team), but i'm still leaning towards aura-bot with spectral wraith as my only source of damage. The spellvamp with your ult is too retarded to pass up. On May 24 2013 04:19 xes wrote: The scaling buff duration on Q is really good, I think you want at least 3 or 4 pts in it by lvl 13. You should have it maxed by 13, don't bother shoving extra points into your W early, it has become a late game utility spell, you'll get much more from just skilling into Q and E. | ||
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101toss
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Lee sin is also brutal, along with renekton as smash said. The whole back and forth play that both of those champs does is just retarded. Darius i haven't tried and Riven is sorta a counter, but only if she gets a gank on you, however she has to play so agressive to keep punishing you that she will be very vulnerable to ganks. Irelia and nasus gets donked pretty darn hard from my experience. EDIT: There's also yorick and cho'gath who turns the lane into a giant farm fest. It's hard 1-5, but if you survive, you'll both be hitting 180-200 cs by 20 min. | ||
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Arisen
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