EPT[Champion] Nunu - Page 49
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nosliw
United States2716 Posts
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affinity
United States266 Posts
4-3-23 masteries 9 armor reds 7 cdr yellows 2 armor yellows 9 cdr blues 3 spellvamp quints cloth + 2 pots + pinkward start, QQE use observer ward before the dragon is about to attack you | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 01 2013 21:21 Sponkz wrote: Top-lane diana can fuck you over pretty hard. I tried that once, never again. Lee sin is also brutal, along with renekton as smash said. The whole back and forth play that both of those champs does is just retarded. Darius i haven't tried and Riven is sorta a counter, but only if she gets a gank on you, however she has to play so agressive to keep punishing you that she will be very vulnerable to ganks. Irelia and nasus gets donked pretty darn hard from my experience. EDIT: There's also yorick and cho'gath who turns the lane into a giant farm fest. It's hard 1-5, but if you survive, you'll both be hitting 180-200 cs by 20 min. wait top diana beats nunu? da faq? | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
I'm still not sure what went wrong, but she managed to farm up to 6 without being that far behind (5-10 cs, no real xp lead) then she came back to lane with a negatron cloak and double dorans and started playing aggressively. I tried to counter-play, but she would E my ult every single time. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
I've been trying out bulwark on nunu and I really like it. Against AP or split damage teams that is. If I'm against almost full AD the survivability really isn't there. I didn't like it before because of S2 damage was much more AD around the middle and end, so FH was just beastly (after the philo HoG shur). I've been buying lots of dodge boots, over swifties. And all the tanky cc junglers are back, which nunu shits on. Nunu is back to being king, getting my winrate back up after lots of losses. Also I've never been a fan of mobos on nunu. With boots 1 his MS is hitting 425ish, which is just 15 below most other junglers who buy mobos. Also it's 650g, for an item with no defensive stats. I do run oom faster because of the increased need to keep BB up, but I'd rather have an extra back or two with 650 gold. I find no need for an extra spirit item after golem. Wraith doesn't do anything for you because you don't get low in the jungle, and you should be running oom in teamfights before you're dying. Nunu needs to itemize around his power points in the game, because he really doesn't do anything. Getting an early item can boost or extend a dominant point in the game. Golem is HP, hp regen, mana regen, cdr, tenacity, increased spell damage to monsters. Stats that are almost all useful even when you're out of the jungle (other then the obvious). Nunu already crushes jungle camps since leveling q is good now. If wraith helped solve his huge mana issues, I might be in favor of it (but I think even chalice is too expensive to be pulling in the jungle). edit: Also, someone said on a stream I was watching that the spirit items passive applies to Q, which it doesn't (that would be OP). | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
if you are trying to fight her straight up, which it sounds like you are since you are trying to burst her shield in a short period, you are playing lane nunu completely wrong (if you fight anyone straight up you'll probably die). the point of lane nunu isn't to 100-0 win fights, but wear out their potions and all-in them if they are low. also, new doran's ring is retarded on nunu, stack all day | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
If they pick any slow jungler, naut, sej, nasus, or something with low MS, you're like a fucking shaco on that counterjungle and gank. You might be able to pull it off against a lee sin (though against faster junglers I just wait for the buff to hit the required 1120 hp and then take it from them). edit: Also it was pre all nerfs diana. | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On June 02 2013 14:45 affinity wrote: Level 3 Dragon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypzfycka-kE 4-3-23 masteries 9 armor reds 7 cdr yellows 2 armor yellows 9 cdr blues 3 spellvamp quints cloth + 2 pots + pinkward start, QQE use observer ward before the dragon is about to attack you rofl that's insane! has anyone tested to see if it still works? ok tested, still works. Aparently nunu can solo baron at 15 minutes at lvl @ with spellvamp quints/spirit of spectral wraith/bluebuff and 9/0/21 masteries specing in the 10% cdr. Amazing. | ||
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101toss
3232 Posts
On June 14 2013 00:30 ReachTheSky wrote: rofl that's insane! has anyone tested to see if it still works? ok tested, still works. Aparently nunu can solo baron at 15 minutes at lvl @ with spellvamp quints/spirit of spectral wraith/bluebuff and 9/0/21 masteries specing in the 10% cdr. Amazing. it's actually easier to 15 minute baron than to cheese dragon like this | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On June 16 2013 06:44 101toss wrote: it's actually easier to 15 minute baron than to cheese dragon like this o for sure, i had to practice the dragon cheese several times before i got it. Timing the ward drop to tank hits from the dragon is the difficult part. one thing about the dragon cheese build though. It's bad. U give up having attackspeed runes on nunu to be able to do it. U basically get a drag for ur team but then ur whole jungle clear time is absolutely shit. It's really not worth it. I just run spellvamp quints, attackspeed reds, armor yellows and scaling magic resist blues with 9/0/21. I don't go for the cheese. The spellvamp quints are super sick. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
Pre-game: If your support has explorer's ward tell him to ward the brush near the "ramp" in your red jungle at 1.55. If the support doesn't have explorer's tell them to regular ward it. Tell your team, that if they see the enemy jungler trying to steal your red, they should lock him in and rape him. Also tell your team to stand a little forward towards the brush near purple sides blue so it looks like you start on red. It makes the invade really safe. 1.55: Start blue, get it low, use Q, level up, DO NOT KILL THE SMALL MINIONS! Take your W, run ASAP to the enemy red-buff. Pull the buff into the brush, get it low and finish it with Q+Smite. From here you have a variety of choices. If the enemy jungler tries to steal your red, either go help your team, or if you think they'll have an easy time rapping the living shit out of him do your thing. Steal the big wraith, steal the big golem, back off. You will always be able to get the buff, before the jungler arrives, because you didn't take the effort to clear your small camp. You can try to force a flash on the person, if their mid-laner is weak early on (Kha'zix, Anivia etc.), i mostly just back off, but it highly depends on the situation. Go back and clear the small minions at blue and TIME IT. Now why are you doing this? I find this tactic insanely useful, because you will now have an easy time invading the 2nd blue buff if your team is doing well. Your own blue is not up at the usual 7.20 so there is simply no chance of the enemy stealing it. Also, because you only steal the red buff and doesn't clear that either, it means that the enemy jungler will be slighty behind after either donating blue or getting it stolen by you. With the off-timers on your blue and red, it is much more easier and safe to counter-jungle, because there is simply no risk of having anything but the small camps taken from you, because you time your own red and blue. Obviously 4 games is too small of a sample size, to say this is 100% legit, however with the popularity of Nunu, everyone expects you to counter-jungle somehow, and this is a really safe method in solo queue. Just make sure to check the enemy supports ward counts when he/she walks into lane, aswell as the mid-laner, because if it's warded you might have to burn your flash to escape. | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Also how do you jugnle ? If I don't get blue buff I run out of mana very fast because I spam my abilities a lot in order to clear faster, is it wrong ? And is Chalice worth ? | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On July 10 2013 22:01 Lylat wrote: I'm a noob jungler and I need advice.. When I play Nunu I tend to counter jungle a lot (I try to get every ennemy buff) hence not ganking much, is it ok or should I try not to fuck the ennemy jungler that much and gank more ? (I know it's situationnal but what do you guys do in general ? More ganking or more counterjungling ?) Also how do you jugnle ? If I don't get blue buff I run out of mana very fast because I spam my abilities a lot in order to clear faster, is it wrong ? And is Chalice worth ? Nunu's ganks are generally pretty meh. Usually your time is better spent counterjungling. Yes, you do run out of mana pretty quick, but getting Chalice is not worth. You can't spam iceballs on jungle camps but I find that with Spirit Stone using only W and Q I am quite fine both mana-wise and clear-wise. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
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Sandster
United States4054 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On July 10 2013 22:01 Lylat wrote: I'm a noob jungler and I need advice.. When I play Nunu I tend to counter jungle a lot (I try to get every ennemy buff) hence not ganking much, is it ok or should I try not to fuck the ennemy jungler that much and gank more ? (I know it's situationnal but what do you guys do in general ? More ganking or more counterjungling ?) Also how do you jugnle ? If I don't get blue buff I run out of mana very fast because I spam my abilities a lot in order to clear faster, is it wrong ? And is Chalice worth ? You should counter-jungle AND counter-gank. If you just counter jungle and the enemy jungler says fuck it i'll just gank lanes then it can be a huge problem. If you do both you screw him xp/gold wise while making sure ur lanes are good and can get kills off it too. Nunu is one of the best junglers for controlling objectives(baron,buffs,dragon). | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
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serum321
United States606 Posts
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
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