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[Champion] Nunu - Page 21

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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 01 2012 20:48 GMT
#401
D=

w/e, it's always worth it to post Winnie the Pooh.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 20:54:11
August 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#402
Dat build just made a solo q teammate of mine cry for an entire game. Was fuckin retarded. Fuckin hated listening to him just whine all game about how its impossible to stop and shit.

Also, if you get warned, lemme know who did it so I can go complain about shitty moderation.
God Bless
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#403
On August 02 2012 05:51 Roffles wrote:
Dat build just made a solo q teammate of mine cry for an entire game. Was fuckin retarded.

one way or another, this build was going to get out, I just wanted to take credit for it.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#404
I like how people are all surprised about this. Nunu's entire kit is around being an uncatchable asshole with good ranged harass and some of the stupidest sustain in the game. Then Smash goes "well I'll build gp10s and Chalice and just be as asshole top", and people suddenly realize it's bullshit.

Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the funniest.
It's your boy Guzma!
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-01 20:59:02
August 01 2012 20:58 GMT
#405
On August 02 2012 05:54 Requizen wrote:
I like how people are all surprised about this. Nunu's entire kit is around being an uncatchable asshole with good ranged harass and some of the stupidest sustain in the game. Then Smash goes "well I'll build gp10s and Chalice and just be as asshole top", and people suddenly realize it's bullshit.

Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the funniest.

well, if it's so damn obvious, why was I the only one abusing it in high level games after 3 weeks of remade nunu?

EDIT: I mean, sure, in retrospect, it's a straightforward solution to nunu's problems, but I dunno if saying it's obvious is necessarily fair.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
August 01 2012 20:59 GMT
#406
On August 02 2012 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 05:54 Requizen wrote:
I like how people are all surprised about this. Nunu's entire kit is around being an uncatchable asshole with good ranged harass and some of the stupidest sustain in the game. Then Smash goes "well I'll build gp10s and Chalice and just be as asshole top", and people suddenly realize it's bullshit.

Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the funniest.

well, if it's so damn obvious, why was I the only one abusing it in high level games after 3 weeks of remade nunu?

EDIT: I mean, sure, in retrospect, it's a straightforward solution to nunu's problems, but I dunno if saying it's obvious is necessarily fair.

Hey man rainmong played nunu top way before you, he da best cuz he build a rylais on nunu. Gotta have moar slow.
How does vlad do against nunu with all his sustain and all his pushing?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 01 2012 21:01 GMT
#407
On August 02 2012 05:59 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
On August 02 2012 05:54 Requizen wrote:
I like how people are all surprised about this. Nunu's entire kit is around being an uncatchable asshole with good ranged harass and some of the stupidest sustain in the game. Then Smash goes "well I'll build gp10s and Chalice and just be as asshole top", and people suddenly realize it's bullshit.

Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the funniest.

well, if it's so damn obvious, why was I the only one abusing it in high level games after 3 weeks of remade nunu?

EDIT: I mean, sure, in retrospect, it's a straightforward solution to nunu's problems, but I dunno if saying it's obvious is necessarily fair.

Hey man rainmong played nunu top way before you, he da best cuz he build a rylais on nunu. Gotta have moar slow.
How does vlad do against nunu with all his sustain and all his pushing?

Depends highly on junglers. Can really go either way, probably small edge to vlad, but idk, I've never played the matchup without the jungle being something stupidly lopsided like Ali for Vlad and Voli for me .
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 21:02 GMT
#408
Not saying it's obvious to figure out, nor that I could have done it on my own, just that it shouldn't be surprising. People know super sustainable champs are stupid top (Udyr, WW top picks, Vlad and other mana-less mages to an extent), and Nunu has that + ranged harass and a "don't gank me bro" steroid.

Like, I look at that kit plus the items you build, and after 3 seconds of thinking realize "oh yeah, that's actually bullshit". But apparently most people don't believe it until they get fucked with it, which makes me laugh a bit.
It's your boy Guzma!
bmn
Profile Joined August 2010
886 Posts
August 01 2012 21:09 GMT
#409
Vs vlad, see what he said on last page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173812&currentpage=20#391

I'm still having trouble sometimes where I'm technically winning the lane (narrowly), but I feel like I can't really push my advantage much with Nunu because I can't commit to 1v1s against bursty opponents. So if they attack, I snowball, walk away, wait for e to get off cooldown; is that the best I can do?

I had trouble with GP and Darius like this. GP was a stalled lane for a few levels, but eventually he'd always force a longer trade if I tried to snowball (he'd eat oranges and just right-click me). Darius got an early invade kill and is lane he just zoned me from farming. Is there any replay on what the right play style with Mogwai's build is?
(Some lanes are ridiculously easy -- Jax in particular looks incredibly frustrating for the other player.)
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 01 2012 21:26 GMT
#410
On August 02 2012 06:09 bmn wrote:
Vs vlad, see what he said on last page: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=173812&currentpage=20#391

I'm still having trouble sometimes where I'm technically winning the lane (narrowly), but I feel like I can't really push my advantage much with Nunu because I can't commit to 1v1s against bursty opponents. So if they attack, I snowball, walk away, wait for e to get off cooldown; is that the best I can do?

I had trouble with GP and Darius like this. GP was a stalled lane for a few levels, but eventually he'd always force a longer trade if I tried to snowball (he'd eat oranges and just right-click me). Darius got an early invade kill and is lane he just zoned me from farming. Is there any replay on what the right play style with Mogwai's build is?
(Some lanes are ridiculously easy -- Jax in particular looks incredibly frustrating for the other player.)

You're forgeting to nom creeps

and darius snowballs hard. If they try to hard engage, just kite. You're nunu.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 01 2012 21:30 GMT
#411
I can't see Daruis being too strong vs him. No range, no speed, no dash = EW and laugh all day. Even if he pulls you, you should never be far from the wave to eat something.

GP sounds like it'd be a deadlock lane. You both have speed, he'll orange your snowball, you'll consume his Qs. Nunu should win by GP running oom first, though.

Vlad? Dunno, I have no idea how to counter that guy or even how he works. He's like some kind of voodoo witch doctor who eats your butt.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
August 01 2012 21:37 GMT
#412
On August 02 2012 05:58 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 05:54 Requizen wrote:
I like how people are all surprised about this. Nunu's entire kit is around being an uncatchable asshole with good ranged harass and some of the stupidest sustain in the game. Then Smash goes "well I'll build gp10s and Chalice and just be as asshole top", and people suddenly realize it's bullshit.

Sometimes the most obvious solutions are the funniest.

well, if it's so damn obvious, why was I the only one abusing it in high level games after 3 weeks of remade nunu?

EDIT: I mean, sure, in retrospect, it's a straightforward solution to nunu's problems, but I dunno if saying it's obvious is necessarily fair.


I think it's more apt to say that if more than 0.01% of the best players actually experimented with non-standard stuff, these sorts of builds or OP champions would be discovered far faster.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
August 01 2012 23:17 GMT
#413
well it's over now, between streams and my own games, Nunu top has been in like 75% of the games I've seen today.
Carrilord has arrived.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
August 01 2012 23:21 GMT
#414
On August 02 2012 08:17 Slusher wrote:
well it's over now, between streams and my own games, Nunu top has been in like 75% of the games I've seen today.

Uh oh. People better get their Riven on.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
August 01 2012 23:29 GMT
#415
So laned a Darius, wasn't even close, you harass him quite a bit before he is level 3, and he can't damage you until he is level 3 at least, even then if he pulls you, just BB+iceball him, q away his q, he lost the trade. Once you hit 6, when he pulls you, you just ult and he dies in a fire... or rather freezes to death. At the least it burns his flash.

GP was a bit hard, you outharass him early, but he is still able to farm acceptably, and when you get ganked, if the jungler isn't an autoattacking one, your ice ball just is not that handy. Still think you have an advantage, though.

Vlad might be an issue, but I think you can manage to break his sustain, or at least mess with his farm.

Irelia was a bit of a problem for me, with her built in cc reduction, and high health regen she was able to stack MR (2 mantles in 1 game, negatron in game 2, but perhaps I was just not warding well, one of the games I died to a Riven gank and then my team folded to riven ganks while I outlaned Irelia for a while. Other game I was playing too cocky and trying to fight ire with her w going. But I'm still not sure if it was just the lack of any jungle intervention (pass up on free kills) that caused me to have an even lane.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
August 01 2012 23:34 GMT
#416
vs Vlad I've noticed that you either out poke him or out cs him, but never both like you do in all the other lanes. It still takes a good jungler to win the lane, but you never really lose it if you don't try to both fight AND cs
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 02 2012 01:01 GMT
#417
I played vs Vlad last game. It didn't go well since I couldn't stop him from farming.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
August 02 2012 03:16 GMT
#418
Laning against Yorick is pretty funny. You outsustain him, but dps on both sides is pretty low. He bought chalice first though, which delayed the inevitable getting pushed out of lane. Took me ages to run him out of mana, even when spamming everything on CD.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
August 02 2012 03:42 GMT
#419
All you do is save consume for the sustain ghoul. Then he just doesnt sustain enough.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
August 02 2012 04:03 GMT
#420
Protip at gold- elo: harass your opponent in /all chat for losing lane to yeti

I've gotten several rage quits as a result, also messes with their team cohesion
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
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