Sorry, I think my post got buried, mind if I ask again?

I know you play it top, but do you think this can serve in the jungle? Double GP10 with defenses and 9/21 mastery is pretty jungle standard, and 9/0/21 can even work since his jungle is already super safe and strong. Don't know if you can do Grail and Glacial Shroud out of jungle, though.

I feel like, if so, it can make Nunu a super duper flexible pick, filling 3 roles (4, if you include mid lulzy shit).

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

July 31 2012 20:53 GMT

#364

I think it could work, but I have a hard time jungling with nunu because I tend to just hurdedur farm in the jungle when my ult is on CD due to my recent mumu spamming.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

July 31 2012 20:54 GMT

#365

Yeah, I just never liked my general jungle build on him (mixture of Shurelya, FH, Wit's, and Aegis depending on teams), and figured if I could make this work, he might be my third pick for jungle behind Skarner and Naut.

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

July 31 2012 21:04 GMT

#366

On August 01 2012 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
Smash, what's your whole opinion on the nunu vs fizz matchup, have you had a chance to play against it?

I played it once, if you build enough MR that he can't combo you, lane is over for him because you can sit there, snowball and auto him whenever he comes for CS, and outheal his harass(only consume without the heal debuff)

greggy

United Kingdom1483 Posts

July 31 2012 21:47 GMT

#367

I've played irelia twice now and kinda got dumped on twice. One time, granted, I fed fb to a jungler dive, but second game she'd just wqe me and take like 30% of my hp away between consume cooldowns. This was around level 7 and I hadn't backed by then (she had but only had tabi and pots). I tried to snowball her as soon as I saw her run to me but stun would go through and she'd whack me twice or three times with true damage while I was running away. It got easier when I got chalice and shroud but even then trading was impossible so I just resorted to snowballing on cd and farming as safely as I could.

Deleted User 30223

3104 Posts

July 31 2012 21:52 GMT

#368

i wonder how long it's gonna take until nunu starts getting banned hahaha this is so ridiculous

JonnyLaw

United States3482 Posts

July 31 2012 22:43 GMT

#369

I've tried Nunu top a few times now. It's absolutely hilarious and a lot more fun than expected. Thanks for a great build.

I laned against a swain who last picked after he saw our team comp. This was ridiculously hard. We had jungle ali who never came top but post-6 I think swain could 2v1 us anyway. Am I playing wrong or swain just an odd pick that wrecks me?

cLutZ

United States19574 Posts

July 31 2012 23:02 GMT

#370

On August 01 2012 06:52 goldenkrnboi wrote:
i wonder how long it's gonna take until nunu starts getting banned hahaha this is so ridiculous

Isn't banning Nunu just a really smart and safe play? Think about it this way:

You Get First Pick and pick: Nunu. This tells the opposing team absolutely nothing about your plan. He can go in 3 spots (at least).

They will probably play it safe with an 1. AD/Support Combo, or 2. Support + a jungle (who better not be bad vs. nunu), 3. or sup + a safe mid. In any case, at this point during picks/bans you have a huge advantage because next you can do a lot of things.

1. Counter their bot lane with a ADC + Support, leaving you with the ability to counterpick top/jungle + mid hard.
2. Pick a jungler that counters their jungle (who could go top still in most cases) + a support or ADC.
3. Do whatever you pleases. All the time there is always the threat of Nunu going support, or top, or jungle still.

Then they finish their team, they can't pick any top lane that nunu can crush, so that severely limits their champ selection, you might be able to Counterpick top or mid.

This is exactly why they nerfed other Support's ratios. Not saying I like it, but its how it is.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

July 31 2012 23:13 GMT

#371

wingsofdeathx stream he plays renekton vs ... guess who NUNU TOP it's on. always ban nunu from next tomorrow on.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

July 31 2012 23:18 GMT

#372

On August 01 2012 08:13 AsnSensation wrote:
wingsofdeathx stream he plays renekton vs ... guess who NUNU TOP it's on. always ban nunu from next tomorrow on.

Noobs like doomtrobo are just making Nunu top seem weaker than it is so we're okay.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

July 31 2012 23:20 GMT

#373

OK since i dont know about the high elo NA scene i'll take your word but voyboy also is playing top nunu in his stream atm and just 2 man'ed baron with an alistar, fanboys going crazy in iirc.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

August 01 2012 01:11 GMT

#374

VOyboy's nunu build is actually really bad compared to Gizmo's

101toss

3232 Posts

August 01 2012 03:12 GMT

#375

A quote from a game today: "wow how did olaf lose to nunu top, threw the game so hard"

I carried so damn hard T.T

Also, empire'd when I got ganked for a double kill, as well as 18 minute baron

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

August 01 2012 03:15 GMT

#376

i just feel like nunu can't carry no matter what you do
you are still gonna be reliant on your teammates not being complete derps
it sucks

101toss

3232 Posts

August 01 2012 03:21 GMT

#377

On August 01 2012 12:15 gtrsrs wrote:
i just feel like nunu can't carry no matter what you do
you are still gonna be reliant on your teammates not being complete derps
it sucks

You could always get off that empire and win game

schmutttt

Australia3856 Posts

August 01 2012 03:44 GMT

#378

When you guys go for jungle nunu how do you play him? I've been opening boots 1 ward/pot and warding a buff really early and looking to get way ahead of their jungle. I've been copying smashs build with 9/21/0, is this alright or do I need to change what I'm doing? Just feels really hit and miss relying on counterjungling so much.

wei2coolman

United States60033 Posts

August 01 2012 04:00 GMT

#379

On August 01 2012 12:44 schmutttt wrote:
When you guys go for jungle nunu how do you play him? I've been opening boots 1 ward/pot and warding a buff really early and looking to get way ahead of their jungle. I've been copying smashs build with 9/21/0, is this alright or do I need to change what I'm doing? Just feels really hit and miss relying on counterjungling so much.

I build my Jungle nunu full retard, because it's always fun to see how people react to it.

I start boots 3 pot. 9/21/0, or 9/13/8(ms), runes are mpen/armor/mrflat/AS quints. First item should be philostone, 2nd item kage's pick (or hog). Then I build bilgewater cutlass, then hextech revolver, gunblade. Triforce (or lichbane), Abyssal, frozen heart etc etc.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

August 01 2012 04:00 GMT

#380

On August 01 2012 12:15 gtrsrs wrote:
i just feel like nunu can't carry no matter what you do
you are still gonna be reliant on your teammates not being complete derps
it sucks

Yeah, I get that feeling as well, but as long as your teammates have half a brain, you basically have a free win because you're won lane as fuck and the enemy top is worthless. And you can chunk people pretty well with Snowball, so there's that.

That's just Nunu's niche, though. He's a control jungler and a counter jungler. Your ganks are good but not great, since it relies on the enemy to be susceptible to slow ganks (no blink/dash, pushed far forward), and your laner has to be able to take advantage of AS/MS (less useful on mids, for example). Your job as a jungler when playing Nunu is to just make sure the enemy jungler is useless, and then show up to countergank. You're not a primary ganker like Shaco or Naut.