EPT[Champion] Nunu - Page 18
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icemanzdoinwork
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King of Blades
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Zess
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I have a hard time selling them or converting them because of too much RTS. Gotta using money to make more money. | ||
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wei2coolman
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Mogwai
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101toss
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On August 01 2012 03:12 Mogwai wrote: I typically don't sell them until I can sell them and immediately buy a completed item, usually aegis, abyssal or wit's end, typically after at least glacial + revolver, if not the full FH + WotA. Protip: upgrade philo to elesias then sell elesias for bonus 10 gold | ||
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Mogwai
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101toss
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Mogwai
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On August 01 2012 03:21 101toss wrote: I find it silly they kept that profit in even after nerfing elesia cost Agreed, but it went down from 40 to 10, so it's pretty negligible atm. It's tough because you don't want to make regen + tenacity so expensive that no one buys it... Though I guess no one buys it now anyway so lol, w/e. | ||
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AsnSensation
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Perplex
United States1693 Posts
On August 01 2012 03:37 AsnSensation wrote: llooool why u make a thread on reddit, now i gotta ban nunu I still think we have a few days left at least until he's first pick/first ban in solo que. I thought we'd have a good 2 weeks but now that ~2000 people are gonna try it from reddit it will spread FAST. It was inevitable either way, but tbh i'm just gonna brush up on my riven tonight and it should be fine | ||
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Requizen
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Edit: speaking of which, do you think that this build can work in the jungle as well? Obviously it's super strong top, but 9/21/0 is normal jungle masteries and 9/0/21 isn't too bad either, plus going Philo/Kage could easily fit a jungle champ. Or do you think Chalice/Shroud is too expensive for a jungler to build most games? | ||
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obesechicken13
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On August 01 2012 01:20 Perplex wrote: So i've yet to come across a losing lane when I play this... I'm rushing to figure out a viable counterpick before this goes FoTM. Considering I main top, I need an answer to Nunu besides banning him :p edit: As this becomes more popular and junglers start thinking "nunu is op, let's camp him", would you consider starting boots 3 and a ward using gold from the utility mastery? You'd be ungankable in your most vulnerable state Riot will respond to the whines. I don't know if nunu is any different now than before but when I ran nunu top I felt like I fell off hard even though my build was still chalice frozen heart. A pantheon with less than 30 cs and tons of mana regen when I had over 100 ended up going 5-0 by leaving lane and ganking elsewhere. He still lost because... no cs. I've always had troubles with nunu but felt he fell off compared to even kayle. You can play other dicks like sion or yi if you dont want to farm under tower in lane though. This is just math but 360 life every 18 seconds isn't enough to heal all of panth's spears. If panth hits for 180 damage on each spear, and he throws two spears every 8 seconds then he can eat through the heal in 8 seconds. Yeah gp can sit out of spear range, but as long as panth doesn't run out of mana, he can trade effectively enough such that one of them has to leave lane. Nunu heals for 345 every 10 seconds for 60 mana. I've beaten panth as max Q nunu but he brought me pretty low too, and with chalice and mana regen runes on both sides the fight probably comes down to skill rather than defensiveness being stronger. At the very least it isn't that clear who wins in lane, especially with jungler intervention. A post from a while ago. | ||
Live2Win
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On August 01 2012 04:36 obesechicken13 wrote: Riot will respond to the whines. I don't know if nunu is any different now than before but when I ran nunu top I felt like I fell off hard even though my build was still chalice frozen heart. A pantheon with less than 30 cs and tons of mana regen when I had over 100 ended up going 5-0 by leaving lane and ganking elsewhere. He still lost because... no cs. I've always had troubles with nunu but felt he fell off compared to even kayle. You can play other dicks like sion or yi if you dont want to farm under tower in lane though. The problem is you're trying to compare 2 very different top styles. Nunu's ability in lategame is much different than kayles. similar to the soraka mid, vs other ap mids, the lategame usage is different. Or comparing nautilus to shyvanna. Nunu's main ability lategame is an anti-carry, while being a support/tank. Kayles late game ability is off/semi-carry, along w/ that ulti. | ||
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CeriseCherries
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napo
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Mogwai
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On August 01 2012 04:36 obesechicken13 wrote: Riot will respond to the whines. I don't know if nunu is any different now than before but when I ran nunu top I felt like I fell off hard even though my build was still chalice frozen heart. A pantheon with less than 30 cs and tons of mana regen when I had over 100 ended up going 5-0 by leaving lane and ganking elsewhere. He still lost because... no cs. I've always had troubles with nunu but felt he fell off compared to even kayle. You can play other dicks like sion or yi if you dont want to farm under tower in lane though. A post from a while ago. well for one I think kayle scales pretty decently late game since you can basically build her like an AD carry, and have 2x AD carries in end game. regarding nunu vs panth: That math is fine, if you only consider that panth is the only an aggressor and that nunu is only a defender in a sort of vacuum. Panth spear range is comparable to iceball range (600 vs 550), which means that in all likelihood, you are taking an iceball for most spears thrown. Nunu's iceball also has comparable damage to panth spearshot (I think it ends up being slightly less around the midgame due to scaling, but figuring it out is not something i'm interested in doing). Now what you're looking at is that nunu really only has to heal at minimum the difference in damage output of spear vs iceball, which I think consume is quite capable of doing. now, in practice, I have no idea how nunu vs pantheon goes, but strictly comparing nunu's consume regen to panth's spear dmg output doesn't really give the full picture. edit: another thing to consider in the gp & nunu vs panth situation is that parley is blocked by path shield, and panth can reasonably block a significant chunk of them with minimal effort. That's why gp can literally almost never be the aggressor vs pantheon and you can actually more directly compare gp healing to panth spearshot dmg. Iceball isn't affected by shield. edit2: unrelated to above, but i had some issues vs a darius who rushed exe's calling and used it to cockblock my consumes. Ofc, that same game I also had MCMilo's olaf completely wrecking both myself and the rest of my team and eventually diving me every 5 minutes, so that might have contributed to my issues as well  | ||
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Mogwai
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