So I feel like I'm playing Xin wrong. When I play him, he feels so squishy, that even though I have a high kill count, I usually have a high death count along with it. This is especially true late game. Late game, should I play Xin as some sort of clean up crew instead of being in the mist of the battle?

LancerJ

United States160 Posts

March 24 2011 03:33 GMT

#82

Guardsman Bob seems to play late game Xin as an assassin rather than clean up or bruiser. Unlike mid game where you might charge in and ult as soon as you get the possibility to hit 3 opponents you instead wait till the opposing squishies show themselves and then burst them down and/or make them flee. After you've neutralized one of their carries you can go back and play clean up on their tanks and off tanks / tanky dps.

BluzMan

Russian Federation4235 Posts

March 24 2011 07:55 GMT

#83

On March 24 2011 11:41 Misder wrote:
So I feel like I'm playing Xin wrong. When I play him, he feels so squishy, that even though I have a high kill count, I usually have a high death count along with it. This is especially true late game. Late game, should I play Xin as some sort of clean up crew instead of being in the mist of the battle?

I've been having the same problem until I came to a striking discovery: always solo. Dual lane Xin is trash because he needs his levels.

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

April 02 2011 20:14 GMT

#84

Guardsman bob maxes E first, whats the hell is the logic behind that ? :/

crate

United States2474 Posts

April 02 2011 20:23 GMT

#85

Leveling E only gives 5 less damage per skill level than leveling Q--assuming you get all 3 attacks off on Q--and also increases the slow. I don't know if leveling either skill affects the cooldown but it seems to me that leveling E makes more sense than leveling Q.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

April 02 2011 20:25 GMT

#86

E also synergizes well with his r.

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

April 02 2011 20:26 GMT

#87

It's AoE and helps farm, like when you have the three ranged minions exposed -> just E and insta 50g.

JFe4R

United States54 Posts

April 02 2011 20:37 GMT

#88

Q is a 1 point wonder (you are just adding a lil more dmg), if u wanna increase your burst+dps combo E and W are a much better option.

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

April 02 2011 20:45 GMT

#89

But IMO the most important part of leveling E over Q is like crate said - you will NOT land all 3 hits with Q vs competent enemy (at least that's what bob said when he explained it lol!

)

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

April 03 2011 19:15 GMT

#90

But he also maxes W over Q lol, is that intended as well?

Vlanitak

Norway3045 Posts

April 03 2011 19:32 GMT

#91

you want that attackspeed to get the most auto attack animations off during it's active to reduce the CD on the other skills

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

April 03 2011 19:44 GMT

#92

On April 04 2011 04:15 Iplaythings wrote:
But he also maxes W over Q lol, is that intended as well?

Not sure if you noticed the changes to Q a few patches back but it's not longer worth leveling it, I have no idea why you would dump points into it

Morphx2

147 Posts

April 03 2011 22:52 GMT

#93

I usually build him

Dorans shield or cloth armor + pots
Ghostblade
Sword of Divine
Tanky Items

R>E>W>Q

and 9/21/0 or 0/21/9

Tanky runes.

Woony

Germany6657 Posts

May 02 2011 18:46 GMT

#94

What's the build/runes for jungle Xin after the changes?

Woony

Germany6657 Posts

May 07 2011 19:10 GMT

#95

So I've played a few games of jungle Xin after the patch and I don't know, while his jungle is decently fast and safe and his ganks are amazing (surprise charge gank out of the brush is pretty much a secured kill unless someone flashes) he doesn't seem to run that well off jungle gold/exp because Xin really needs sololane exp/gold. You need Wriggles + Ghostblade/SOTD as core for damage/jungling but also a bunch of tankyness really fast so you don't explode instantly. Unless you play him like Akali but I think that's pretty stupid.

I use Stonewall's build which is

Route: Smallgolems > Wraiths > Wolves > Blue > Base > Smallgolems > Red

21/0/9

Attackspeed reds
Armor yellows
Mres/level blues
Arpen quints

QWQE after that I do R > E > W > Q

Vamp scepter
madreds
boots 1
wriggles
mercs
Ghostblade/SOTD
tank stuff (Randuins/Banshees)
Cleaver as luxury DPS item

Chrispy

Canada5878 Posts

May 07 2011 19:14 GMT

#96

LOL wow Whatsupchan how do you feel about Stonewall stealing your path and masteries and getting credit for it. GG.

bosiddon

308 Posts

May 07 2011 19:17 GMT

#97

joke's on him i gave my super secret new path to my disciple blazeraid

Kaniol

Poland5551 Posts

May 07 2011 19:43 GMT

#98

IMO you could as well write down wit's end as an alternative to youmu/SOTD

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

May 07 2011 23:56 GMT

#99

that route is ancient and not even optimal LOL. idk how anyone can even steal a route, there are only five damn camps on your side

correct way to do it is to smite the wraith, go to stone golems and have the lane pull them, wolves, if gank is possible red and gank, otherwise blue and base OR immediately do red if you have no fear (not that you will somehow die with godly jungler xin, just you won't have smite up so vry easy to disrupt)

I go wriggles triforce, i think triforce is op as shit on him now