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arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
December 20 2010 23:52 GMT
#21
The polly build?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 21 2010 00:04 GMT
#22
Actually I think the way Q works against towers now is if you activate it you won't get the popups but you will get damage bonus as long as you don't proc the hits on creeps/champs.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-22 16:24:45
December 21 2010 00:19 GMT
#23
Was it changed recently? AFAIK all that Q can do is reset your auto attack so you can kind of double hit a tower if you do it right.

Tested it, Q definitely does not work against towers.
Retvrn to Forvms
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 21 2010 01:39 GMT
#24
On December 21 2010 08:52 arnath wrote:
The polly build?

Wriggles-Ghostblade.

On December 21 2010 09:19 Chrispy wrote:
Was it changed recently? AFAIK all that Q can do is reset your auto attack so you can kind of double hit a tower if you do it right.

Roughly half the "on next attack" skills work against tower without losing charges and the others don't, but which of those skills do and don't work rotate pretty much every patch.
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
December 21 2010 10:01 GMT
#25
oh my god xin feels too fucking good

like I've been playing basically nothing but gimp heroes (Teemo, Cass, Poppy, Fiddle, Nasus, Dinger, etc) this whole time and all of a sudden BAM

IMBALANCE

I FEEL POWERFULLLL
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 23 2010 09:36 GMT
#26
Instead of getting SotD, why not get Starks? It helps the team alot and you never die with it b/c of lifesteal. I feel the advantages of it makes up for 20% aspd and 10 apen.
jaedong the man with the huge dong
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 23 2010 10:01 GMT
#27
On December 23 2010 18:36 Owned Noob wrote:
Instead of getting SotD, why not get Starks? It helps the team alot and you never die with it b/c of lifesteal. I feel the advantages of it makes up for 20% aspd and 10 apen.


Yeah, starks is most people's choice item for AS. (it's 40% btw, vs 55% from SotD) Really I'd only get SotD if they had a lot of exhaust. It's kind of a situational item to me while starks is more of a standard item.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 23 2010 10:02 GMT
#28
SotD makes your combo a lot stronger, starks' effect isn't that different since AS is still good but lifesteal isn't the stat you go for when you are looking to do damage.

But if you have 2 more AD characters in your team then yeah, starks is good. Xin is prob the 3rd best starks carrier after mundo and kayle.
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
December 24 2010 02:15 GMT
#29
On December 23 2010 19:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 18:36 Owned Noob wrote:
Instead of getting SotD, why not get Starks? It helps the team alot and you never die with it b/c of lifesteal. I feel the advantages of it makes up for 20% aspd and 10 apen.


Yeah, starks is most people's choice item for AS. (it's 40% btw, vs 55% from SotD) Really I'd only get SotD if they had a lot of exhaust. It's kind of a situational item to me while starks is more of a standard item.


No I was talking about the difference is aspd (I thought the aspd for SotD got changed?), so its 20%. Also, SotD works over exhaust? I never knew about this
jaedong the man with the huge dong
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 24 2010 03:06 GMT
#30
Hm, I'd have thought that dodges would be treated differently than misses. That's pretty nice if SotD counteracts blinds though.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
December 24 2010 03:57 GMT
#31
Can somebody please explain to me why the Ghostblade-Wriggles build is popular? I don't understand the point of Wriggles on a non-jungle champion.
Brambled
Profile Joined July 2010
United States750 Posts
December 24 2010 13:29 GMT
#32
Well form my experience wriggles gives you a free ward every 3 minutes which is a huge plus. Gives you the lifesteal you need to never have to go back unless you need to buy. Wriggles keeps the minion damage proc which can help a ton with baron/dragon with high attack speed.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
December 25 2010 04:09 GMT
#33
On December 24 2010 12:57 arnath wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why the Ghostblade-Wriggles build is popular? I don't understand the point of Wriggles on a non-jungle champion.

I'm pretty sure they're taking about gb-wriggles with respect to a jungle Xin. Why would you say he's a non-jungle champion?
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-25 10:58:25
December 25 2010 10:52 GMT
#34
On December 23 2010 19:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 18:36 Owned Noob wrote:
Instead of getting SotD, why not get Starks? It helps the team alot and you never die with it b/c of lifesteal. I feel the advantages of it makes up for 20% aspd and 10 apen.


Yeah, starks is most people's choice item for AS. (it's 40% btw, vs 55% from SotD) Really I'd only get SotD if they had a lot of exhaust. It's kind of a situational item to me while starks is more of a standard item.

Hmm i haven't used SotD in ages but doesn't it prevent enemies from dodging? In other words - you can still miss, they just can't dodge. Exhaust causes you to miss, not them to dodge.

Oh crap, page didn't refresh, lots of people already adressed that ;p

I guess the main idea with Xin is "grab 1-2 damage items and then just build tanky"? How does BR work with xin?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 25 2010 14:55 GMT
#35
On December 25 2010 19:52 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2010 19:01 BlackPaladin wrote:
On December 23 2010 18:36 Owned Noob wrote:
Instead of getting SotD, why not get Starks? It helps the team alot and you never die with it b/c of lifesteal. I feel the advantages of it makes up for 20% aspd and 10 apen.


Yeah, starks is most people's choice item for AS. (it's 40% btw, vs 55% from SotD) Really I'd only get SotD if they had a lot of exhaust. It's kind of a situational item to me while starks is more of a standard item.

Hmm i haven't used SotD in ages but doesn't it prevent enemies from dodging? In other words - you can still miss, they just can't dodge. Exhaust causes you to miss, not them to dodge.

Oh crap, page didn't refresh, lots of people already adressed that ;p

I guess the main idea with Xin is "grab 1-2 damage items and then just build tanky"? How does BR work with xin?


You're right, tested, I'm an idiot, ignore me. o_o
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 25 2010 15:39 GMT
#36
On December 25 2010 13:09 Kinky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2010 12:57 arnath wrote:
Can somebody please explain to me why the Ghostblade-Wriggles build is popular? I don't understand the point of Wriggles on a non-jungle champion.

I'm pretty sure they're taking about gb-wriggles with respect to a jungle Xin. Why would you say he's a non-jungle champion?


He's so powerful in lane that he doesn't need to jungle. Just because something can jungle doesn't mean it's optimal.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-26 23:05:03
December 26 2010 23:04 GMT
#37
With Last Whisper being changed to 40+ dmg instead of 40% attack speed, is this item still a good choice for xin zhao?
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
December 26 2010 23:20 GMT
#38
IMO no, it's not very good. Xin kind of needs to open some sort of attack speed. I recommend Ghostblade, others will swear by SotD.

Starks is an option too if your team is heavily reliant on phsyical dps.
Retvrn to Forvms
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 27 2010 00:35 GMT
#39
On December 27 2010 08:20 Chrispy wrote:
IMO no, it's not very good. Xin kind of needs to open some sort of attack speed. I recommend Ghostblade, others will swear by SotD.

Starks is an option too if your team is heavily reliant on phsyical dps.


Ghostblade seems good -- but no love for MBR? I'd vastly prefer it to SotD on Xin...
fadestep
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States605 Posts
December 27 2010 01:25 GMT
#40
Hi. I'm actually a fairly skilled Xin Zhao and have a few thoughts on him.

The first thing is that Wriggles is good even on non jungling Xin. You start with cloth armor and 5 hp pots and just harass the shit out of mid or top (whatever solo you have). People simply can't stay in lane with you. After wriggles, you should probably go ghostblade. SoTD is OK, but its actually gonna come back to bite you if the game goes too long or you are needed for more damage than just ur ultimate.

After Wriggles, SoTD, Ghostblade (whatever you end up getting). You should get tanky. I think the best way to do it is actually grabbing a phage and then making atmas. You can finish the frozen mallet late game if you are full on slots, but just a simple phage is usually enough. Alternatively, you could get banshees against really magical teams.

Xin Zhao is an interesting champion to build. You want to get a solid mix of armor pen, attack speed, hp, and resists. Its tough to build him so you are always strong enough to kill people but beefy enough to not get one shotted.

He actually takes a lot of practice to build.

Just some general tips for building him though:

1. Start with Armor Pen/Lifesteal/Attack Speed
2. Get tanky fast
3. Don't complete Mallet before end game
4. Madreds Bloodrazor is NOT good on him
5. Sunfire capes are NOT good on him
6. Auru items are NOT good on him
7. Crit is surprisingly GOOD on him, with a Wriggles + Ghostblade + Phage + Atmas, and maybe a late game Banshees you are ridiculously strong.
8. Red and green pots are extremely OP on Xin

random stuff

your pop ups will occur even if you are dodged, exhausted, blinded, etc...

I dunno how clear I have been. LoL is such a varied game its like trying to set out a 200 food build order for SC.
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