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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
Cleanse is nice because in the event you do get stunned, you're in a lot of trouble. And then Flash is still one of the best utility spells imho. Shroud + flash can get you out of almost any gank, or set you up for a surprise R+combo that people won't think they're in range for. I can't imagine she'd need ignite. She's a soulless killing machine already. Though I suppose it's good in a solo lane. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Most stuns can be avoided especially with good use of shroud. | ||
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Zanzabar Haberdasher
United States510 Posts
It also gives you an added layer of gank-protection, which is one of Akali's worst weaknesses. That Rammus/Shen taunt or Shaco box would normally mean death, even with your smoke up. One of the most fun things about playing Akali is escaping from terrible situations, imo. Cleanse, smoke, charge at a creep.. so good. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Zanzabar Haberdasher
United States510 Posts
But I stand by the idea that ignite is terrible. Having cleanse fixes roughly half of her bad match-ups. Also: having quality escape mechanisms and the safety net of cleanse allows me to be considerably more aggressive with laning and ganks. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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Navi
5286 Posts
Don't know why cleanse would allow you to be more aggressive in lane, seeing as its cooldown is far more long than most feasible cc mechanisms'. If cc in lane is a problem, get mercs. Combined with your shroud and ult, you should be very safe against cc even without cleanse. Ignite is usually that last step in the combo that leaves them dying next to their tower / the way to fuck over swain / mundo / whatever insane regen you run against (or soraka ult). | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
i better fucking crush with her now or i'm gonna be PISSED | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On February 01 2011 03:13 Zanzabar Haberdasher wrote: How do you guys handle the Anivia match-up without a hundred gank attempt from your jungle? She's such a thorn in my side. Making it through early levels is key, gotta play passive until you get shroud up (Maybe taking W first might be a decent idea. But with W Q you can get good harass on her without leaving yourself open, her stun is pretty easy to dodge, and pre 6 she has no other way to give you 'frozen' status so her other nuke doesn't hit as hard. Other than that at 6, burst her before she bursts you. You've both got enough burst to kill each other really quickly, you've gotta make sure you force the issue on your terms instead of letting her setup with her ulti. Even if you give away a death laning against aniv, you'll still have the burst to take her out when you hit 6 (with 2 R charges). However we have very different builds, this is one of the matchups where it feels like QWQ is much more helpful than QWE. On February 01 2011 07:41 gtrsrs wrote: i just spent 10k IP on an akali runepage i better fucking crush with her now or i'm gonna be PISSED Out of curiousity what was the page that you bought? As for Ignite Vs. Cleanse. I personally run Ignite, in laning I don't think cleanse is really all that useful. You should be able to evade a gank just fine with flash and shroud, otherwise you were probably overextended. Ignite gives her that extra oomph, and when it's on CD it makes her other shit hit harder, it's never not going to be useful in a 1v1. In teamfights is where cleanse would be useful.... however you generally want to try and avoid those stuns anyway. Try and wait until they blow them on other people.... if they're saving their cooldowns just for you then your team is going to have a much easier time. And when you do decide to jump in, drop a shroud quickly. Something like Q -> R -> proc Q -> W -> look for another Q + R that won't put you outside your shroud. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On February 01 2011 12:53 Dgiese wrote: Out of curiousity what was the page that you bought? 3 AP quints 9 flat AP blues 4 flat AD yellows 5 flat armor yellows (i already had these) 9 flat AD reds gives me 24 AP, 10 AD, and a bit of armor lets me open d-shield and 9/21/0 for more lane control so far i feel like my tank runepage was better and i am having BUYERS REMORSE | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
But I run 21/9/0 and Doran's blade start. Bursting them down quicker is probably goign to mitigate the damage more than 9/21/0 imo. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
doran's shield is her only opening, i wanted to build towards that | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
Akali
This is a notable reduction to her tower pushing potential for any build lacking Lich Bane. Tower pushing is one of the more common arguments in favor of Rageblade, but with this change I can't imagine it significantly outperforming even Sheen. On February 01 2011 14:34 gtrsrs wrote: 3 AP quints 9 flat AP blues 4 flat AD yellows 5 flat armor yellows (i already had these) 9 flat AD reds gives me 24 AP, 10 AD, and a bit of armor lets me open d-shield and 9/21/0 for more lane control so far i feel like my tank runepage was better and i am having BUYERS REMORSE With 3/3 Archmage's Savvy and 3/3 Ardor you only need 2 AP Quints + 9 AP Blues to activate Discipline of Force. If you don't want to spec Ardor then what you have is fine, but otherwise you could drop the AD Seals for Armor and use an AD Quint instead. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
21/9/0 Ignite Flash flat ad quints magic pen reds dodge yellows flat ap blues doran sword->mercs->rylais->sheen->lichbane->deathcap->voidstaff mejais somewhere between boot and lichbane when ur feeling cocky R>Q>E>W 1 in W by level 2 never use E unless ur gonna kill them with the burst(so he should be leveling W but his an idiot and levels E but this is his build so im gonna tell u what he builds but i strongly recommend that u max W over E) Teachings of Westnoob "farm on me is worth more than farm on any1 else" so basically trade kills all the time which is true since his playing akali,but be careful when ur on a spree this is how the best akali in game plays | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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Psilocin
Norway10 Posts
On February 01 2011 20:24 locodoco wrote: R>Q>E>W 1 in W by level 2 never use E unless ur gonna kill them with the burst(so he should be leveling W but his an idiot and levels E but this is his build so im gonna tell u what he builds but i strongly recommend that u max W over E) You don't really need that armor and magic resistance early on as it is the stealth that protects you. There's not a lot of people that cba to buy oracle just to counter Akali at the four minute mark, E on the other hand provides a great ability to clear minion waves, which she kind of needs as Q-Auto Hit isn't really that fast. That's my two cents. | ||
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
On February 02 2011 03:06 Psilocin wrote: You don't really need that armor and magic resistance early on as it is the stealth that protects you. There's not a lot of people that cba to buy oracle just to counter Akali at the four minute mark, E on the other hand provides a great ability to clear minion waves, which she kind of needs as Q-Auto Hit isn't really that fast. That's my two cents. since we're talking about early game clearing waves matters even fucking less, and the armor and magic resist is fucking invaluable early game due to people having retarded amounts of penetration at the beginning from runes,didn't understand anything about the 4 min mark and oracle so wont even argue on that | ||
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