[Champion] Akali - Page 9

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

May 23 2011 16:26 GMT

#161

On May 23 2011 07:39 0123456789 wrote:
Jungle akali is not viable.

That was discussed to death last page. Better junglers exist, hard to place in a team comp etc. etc.

The Doran's Shield assertion interests me because I love me my Boots + 3 pot. So here's some math to examine the question, assuming a Westrice build.

Boots + 3 Potion Akali: 20 Armor (16.67% reduction) + 200 Health/Potion
Doran's Shield Akali: 30 Armor (23% reduction) + 120 Health + 8 Health/5 seconds

So for every 100 damage Boots Akali takes, Doran's Akali takes only 92 damage. Now assume Boots Akali takes 600 damage (enough to consume all her potions). Doran's Akali would take 552 damage instead. 1 minute later Boots Akali is at full health thanks to potions, whereas Doran's Akali has only healed 96 health and is 336 health behind. It will take 3.5 minutes for Doran's Akali to heal that difference purely through the passive regen, and another 1.25 minutes reach full health.

The regeneration and protection from Doran's Shield potentially beats that of Boots + 3 Potions after 5.75 minutes of laning. That number stretches further as you consider potential magic damage sources, Akali's self-healing, and natural health regen.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

May 23 2011 16:49 GMT

#162

HP5 is also wasted while at full HP, whereas potions can be used once you need them.

0123456789

United States3216 Posts

May 23 2011 17:06 GMT

#163

Dorans healing lasts the entire game, even after first primary laning phase. Boots can't take burst, Dorans gives you an extra 120 hp to take burst. 120 hp lasts beyond early game, whereas pots only last as 1 time use consumables. Boots are favored in matchups where a roamer or strong ganker is present. Dorans adds more hp per lvl up, and helps against taking other misc dmg like creeps and towers.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

May 23 2011 17:33 GMT

#164

To be clear I'm not arguing that the benefits of Doran's Shield are non-existent or worthless. I simply think a closer look is warranted when it's asserted that X item should always be preferred.

The burst argument is situational. One scenario might kill a boots build and not a Doran's build if they both started at full health, but as shown by the math earlier there can be long stretches where the Doran's build is potentially at much lower health than the boots build.

Situational is a pretty good word for this comparison in general. There are clear situations where each item confers a significant advantage over the other, an an equal or greater number of situations where it's a wash or unclear. Which you choose is really based on the sorts of problems you can expect to encounter in a given matchup.

starfries

Canada3508 Posts

June 16 2011 10:23 GMT

#165

Is there actually a point to leveling E? I used to do the R>Q>E>W build in Westrice's guide but I never actually cast E except to spellvamp off a big creep wave or farm a little. I'm thinking I shouldn't even get any points in E until W is maxed.

That lower energy cost is a real lifesaver sometimes and 50 free armor/mr is retardedly good, especially with spell vamp. Also you may laugh but you can actually save teammates with the slow <_<

De4ngus

United States6533 Posts

June 16 2011 13:52 GMT

#166

I like getting e since for some reason random hoes always survive with like 10 hp so I just press e to make them die. Having a little extra damage is nice ~