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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 02 2011 16:05 GMT
#101
What he's suggesting is that the Armour and the MR increase from leveling up W aren't really an issue early on, he posits that this is because the stealth provided by the shroud is the main source of damage mitigation (because noone has oracles).

Dunno if I agree or disagree. On another note, buying a vision ward just to drop when akali uses her shroud is a great way to fuck with her. Like it can really fuck up her plans.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
February 02 2011 16:55 GMT
#102
E is just really good for wasting energy. ZZ
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
February 02 2011 19:06 GMT
#103
the truth is neither E nor W are a good choice that early >_>
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Stealthpenguin
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland393 Posts
February 02 2011 19:13 GMT
#104
Soo what's the best first buy now.
I was thinking longsword+pot, with defensive masteries. If you have the runes dshield might be better, no pot sucks hard though. Patch has made me play junglers cause on them I know what to buy as first items. :D
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-02 19:27:29
February 02 2011 19:26 GMT
#105
Longsword is still a terrible idea. If you don't have the runes Boots + 3 Pot is probably your best bet, or Cloth Armor + 5 Pot.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
February 02 2011 19:58 GMT
#106
What rune setup would you be using now to hit both your passives at lvl 1?
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
February 02 2011 20:27 GMT
#107
You don't need both passives at level 1 for laning, only Discipline of Might is necessary. What setup you use depends on what masteries you prefer. If you don't want to put more than 9 in Offense you're going to need either 9 AD Marks + 1 AD Quint or 3 AD Quints + 4 AD Marks. If you like Offense you can go 3 AD Quints + 1 AD Mark/Seal or 8-9 AD Marks.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
locodoco
Profile Joined July 2010
Korea (South)1615 Posts
February 03 2011 01:44 GMT
#108
talked to westnoob
he almost never starts dorans anymore
he's expermenting with runes
he says he's liking boots pot x 3 and cloth pot x 5 start atm
i wish riot would give me better ping
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 03 2011 01:49 GMT
#109
On February 03 2011 10:44 locodoco wrote:
talked to westnoob
he almost never starts dorans anymore
he's expermenting with runes
he says he's liking boots pot x 3 and cloth pot x 5 start atm

Does he build the Cloth Armor into anything? And if not, why Cloth+5pot over Bead+6pot?
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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
February 05 2011 00:42 GMT
#110
I heard: Westrice's Akali runes are labeled "You" on his runepages.

AD Reds
Dodge Yellow
AP/Level Blues
2 AP Quints 1 AD Quint

This puts him at a little over 10AP and a little over 10AD at level 1. He also takes 9/21/0 as masteries. You'll hit the AP passive at lvl 6 with 3/3 Archmage's Savvy
Openings are Boots + Pots & Cloth + Pots.
Cloth seems silly to me unless you plan on trading harass with an AD char.

I've been running:
AD Reds
Flat Armor Yellow
Flat Armor Blue
1AD Quint, 2 HP Quints. Also running 9/21/0. Starting /w Amplifying Tome to get passive and rush into sheen when I have gold.

"Do a barrel roll"
Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-05 18:30:44
February 05 2011 01:26 GMT
#111
If you use halloween AP Quints you will be 1 AP under passive at lvl 1 with ardor and archmages savvy, until level 3, which i think is fine.

EDIT: Try starting red elixir + 6 hp pots
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c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
February 17 2011 20:19 GMT
#112
On February 05 2011 10:26 Aukai wrote:
If you use halloween AP Quints you will be 1 AP under passive at lvl 1 with ardor and archmages savvy, until level 3, which i think is fine.

EDIT: Try starting red elixir + 6 hp pots


Is red elixer + 6 hp pot a viable opening build for Akali? I haven't played Akali since the doran's changes, but I'm about to hit level 30 and I'm trying to get a rune build together for her.

Right now I have

9x magic pen marks
9x flat armor seals (is HP/level better? can't afford dodge)
9x AP/level glyphs
1x Flat AP Quint
1x AP/level Quint
1x Flat AD Quint

With 9/21/0 masteries I hit 20 AP at level 6. The big question is should I replace magic pen marks with flat AD marks to activate the lifesteal passive at level 1, giving myself more options for opening builds (cloth + 5 pot, rejuv bead + 6 pot, w/e)? Does the loss of 8 mpen really effect your damage that much?
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 18 2011 02:05 GMT
#113
Don't open red elixir, it's a huge waste because your burst doesn't really kick in until at least level 4, more likely 6-11.
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Aukai
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 02:18:36
February 18 2011 02:16 GMT
#114
I've started doing rejuv bead + 6 hp pots now, I'm wanting to move up to boots and 3 hp pot, i don't really think i can pull off that amp tome 1 hp pot west rice does, he gets really aggressive at lvl 1 with it.

EDIT: I never actually used the red elixir from the start (I guess that could be bad) I just had it on hand because i play like a pussy until I hit 6.
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Phil4994
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States143 Posts
February 18 2011 02:55 GMT
#115
What are some good / bad matchups for Akali in your guys opinions?

For example, whenever I come across an Ashe, TF, Ezreal, and some other heroes, I will completely destroy them. Once I hit level 6, I can be very aggressive and sometimes score a kill if they underestimate the burst. I can't tell if it's just the matchup or the skill level of the opponent.

On the flipside, the heroes i've encountered that scare me are Cho'Gath, Anivia, Malphite etc...
I'm only asking because it's good information to know when picking. Or should I just play a bunch and find out myself?
Zanzabar Haberdasher
Profile Joined July 2010
United States510 Posts
February 18 2011 13:10 GMT
#116
On February 18 2011 11:55 Phil4994 wrote:
What are some good / bad matchups for Akali in your guys opinions?

For example, whenever I come across an Ashe, TF, Ezreal, and some other heroes, I will completely destroy them. Once I hit level 6, I can be very aggressive and sometimes score a kill if they underestimate the burst. I can't tell if it's just the matchup or the skill level of the opponent.

On the flipside, the heroes i've encountered that scare me are Cho'Gath, Anivia, Malphite etc...
I'm only asking because it's good information to know when picking. Or should I just play a bunch and find out myself?


Most of her 'bad' match-ups become in your favor post-six. A few that start bad and only get worse are Anivia, Vlad and Kassadin.

However, she's a direct counter to nearly everyone else.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-18 13:28:04
February 18 2011 13:26 GMT
#117
On February 18 2011 11:55 Phil4994 wrote:
What are some good / bad matchups for Akali in your guys opinions?

For example, whenever I come across an Ashe, TF, Ezreal, and some other heroes, I will completely destroy them. Once I hit level 6, I can be very aggressive and sometimes score a kill if they underestimate the burst. I can't tell if it's just the matchup or the skill level of the opponent.

On the flipside, the heroes i've encountered that scare me are Cho'Gath, Anivia, Malphite etc...
I'm only asking because it's good information to know when picking. Or should I just play a bunch and find out myself?


I've never laned Akali Vs Cho so I have no idea on that one, his AoE seems like it would be a pain in the ass to deal with, you'd probably have to play mindgames with your shroud alot. Aniv can be dangerous if you let her get her shit off first and her danger kicks in earlier than yours (She's dangerous at lvl 2, Akali doesn't get too dangerous until 3/4), you both have the potential to burst each other from full to 0 (post 6), but you should be able to do it quicker than she can. After 6 vs an Anivia I play crazy aggressive just because I want to burst her down before she can burst me. As for malphite burst works pretty damn well against him (you can burst through his shield), oh and if you see his ult coming and for some reason you can't flash it or R out of the way then drop your shroud so he can't target you with his Q.

I found one of the ways that I improved Akali vs X across the board was by not just playing passive and waiting until 6. Getting off that W->Q->pop Q harass while taking minimal damage in return is such a big help for when you do pop 6. If you can get enough harass on them you can often kill your opponent with Q (aim to throw 2/3 seconds before you'll hit level 6) -> R when you hit 6 -> pop Q -> new Q -> pop Q (500 magic damage + ~140 attack damage in the space of a couple seconds). If you pay attention to your XP bar it's actually pretty easy to do, lots of people will fall for the Q -> pretend to back off while you wait for a couple seconds of Q cooldown -> R -> rape face.

And yeah, Kass is a fucking pain in the ass.
DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
February 21 2011 07:27 GMT
#118
Akali vs Cho is all about your usage of ignite to keep him from abusing his passive, you can get some mark harass on him at lvl 3 or so then use the threat of mark to keep him from coming in, and lastly ignite him when he is in a position to get a lot of last hits. Force him to use all his pots before 6 this way so you can push him around when you are both 6. Make sure you get wards for the river since you are playing so aggressively.
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Flakes
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States3125 Posts
March 15 2011 18:08 GMT
#119
So the upcoming patch says her passives will take rounding into account (9.5 AD and 19.5 AP).
I've been working on a jungle Akali build, my first was 9/21/0 with 8 AD reds 1 AD quint (9.85 damage), opening amp tome and relying on the def masteries for jungling power.

Also, the patch is making doran's blade 10 damage, I could try opening that with AP quints + AP blues, freeing up red for mpen and allowing pretty much any masteries.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 15 2011 19:09 GMT
#120
Don't jungle with Doran's Blade. 10 AD, 100 Health and 3% Life Steal aren't remotely as good as 18 Armor and 1000 Health. Amplifying Tome is just as bad. Cloth Armor + 5 Pot is simply better than either option in almost every conceivable way.

Compare the following videos to your own jungling for reference. The difference in security should be obvious, and I highly doubt your build is capable of the alternative routes excepting perhaps the Wraith jack.


"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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