He is running: (from the vid description)

Runes
Armor Pen Red
Armor Yellow
Mana Blue
Armor Pen Quints

Masteries
21/0/9 (grab magic pen- ignore one damage point)

Skill Order
QEQ

You could probably kill blue golem safer with a 1/14/15 spec and replace arm pen runes with flat armor. I haven't tried it though.

TacToSs

Australia330 Posts

November 09 2010 15:15 GMT

#23

I was just thinking of going apen marks, flat armor yellows, mrlvl blues and flat hp quints. Should be fine jungling like that and fulfilling the tank role

caldo149

United States469 Posts

November 13 2010 19:53 GMT

#24

Hey guys, I was thinking that Manamune would be a good item to get on Eve with her ability to spam Q all day long to get the max damage from it, but I'm not sure if it's viable as an opener since it's pretty expensive and may not be the optimal item choice for her. Maybe just get it later on in the game if the situation allows. if you guys wanna try incorporating it into your Eve play that would be cool ^^

EDIT: so i've been trying out Manamune on Eve early and later and yeah, it doesn't really give that much bang for the buck. It definitely helps but there are better items out there, and if you can afford it you're probably winning anyway =P

gtrsrs

United States9109 Posts

November 13 2010 20:42 GMT

#25

that's actually a really interesting idea caldo. she's got mana problems without blue buff as well. so tear might solve that early. only problem is that IIRC you can only proc the +mana twice every 6 seconds, so you wouldn't be getting +4 for every Q. i dunno it's worth considering i suppose

Yiruru

Canada690 Posts

November 15 2010 09:03 GMT

#26

Manamune is terrible, you don't spam your spells nearly enough to make use of it, plus the damage increase is rather measly. MP5/Meditation and possibly a blue pot is enough early game, you can build a catalyst mid-late game if you really want mana.

I don't have Yellow Seals, and I've always jungled ok without them so I haven't bothered. Obviously if you have them, jungling with Eve is really straightforward.

Not sure about specing 21 Offensive tho, unless you're going the Korean Brutalizer build...

Papvin

Denmark610 Posts

December 24 2010 19:50 GMT

#27

Hey, a little update in the Evelynn thread:

So, I've begin seeing a lot of people running Evelynn jungle with revive/smite, and here's a little miniguide to how to do it if you're in doubt, it's pretty easy.

Summoners doesn't matter much, I run 9/11/10 for utility mastery and 2 less damage from creeps. The route is the important part:
Wraiths (smite blue) > small golems > DIE to red > revive > Blue golem and the usual route from blue golem. If you open with cloth armor, and get enough hp pots (I buy 1 or 2 after my initial 5), you can clear your whole jungle if a gank opportunity doesn't arive.

So what do you guys think about this aproach to Eve jungling? Anyone tried to play around with it?

TieN.nS)

United States2131 Posts

December 24 2010 20:55 GMT

#28

Here's a video tutorial I saw for that jungle path:

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

December 24 2010 21:00 GMT

#29

Oh we actually had an Eve thread? Haha and here I was thinking about making one. Surprises me that nobody had bumped it even though she suddenly rose in popularity...

About Revive on Eve: I find it horrible. Eve doesn't really need it to jungle, and without a global ult it's just a waste imo.

I jungle Eve really gimmicky:
1/15/14, Ignite/Smite or Ghost/Smite, APen marks, Armor seals, MRes glyphs, 2 exp quints (important!), 1 AD quint.
Q W Q, R > E > W > Q.
Start at red buff with red elix + 6 health pots. You will level up here, before the solo lanes even reach lvl 2. Gank. Mid, top, bot, their jungler, whatever. Unless your enemies already play super defensively at level 1, just show up to make sure they know how aggressively you gank. You can often score a kill or at the very least you should be able to force the enemy back to base.
Keep chugging pots, if your gank was really quick, you can do your wolves and then blue, otherwise start your blue when smite is at about 10 seconds. From there on just jungle normally, but make sure your enemies are scared. Force them to buy vision wards. Know where they place them, you can often abuse a blind spot in their detection.
At level 6 you can solo dragon with razor + smite + pots, but usually you should gank and then have your allies help with dragon.

If you can, take the first 1-2 kills for yourself. Don't give those to a carry. The extra money speeds your jungling up a ton and allows you to set up really strong mapcontrol.

Item build:
Wriggles, Mercs, HoG, Hexdrinker, Triforce usually. Order and parts of items depending on the game, be flexible. Almost any item is good on Eve in one situation or another. WARDS.

In general, be flexible. In some games I gank 24/7, in other games I farm most of the time. In some games I initiate fights and tank loads of damage. In other games I pick off weak enemies from behind.

On December 25 2010 05:55 TieN.nS) wrote:
Here's a video tutorial I saw for that jungle path: ...

He finishes red at 4:40, first gank at 4:50 or so. I think my jungling path, including a gank and waiting for smite to get blue as the second camp, takes less than that. I get wraiths only once in that time obviously, but my +4% exp and the exp from ganking compensates for that at least partially. Not sure how long a normal run without revive takes. I definitely don't think this revive jungle path is good... Sure, I drop 250 gold into a red elix, but I think my aggressive ganking starting at 2:20 totally makes up for that. Even if I don't score a kill (however getting a kill while your elix is still up definitely helps you get that razor).

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

December 24 2010 22:03 GMT

#30

My way to jungle eve:

Jack their wraiths with smite
our wolves
our wraiths with smite
gank mid
get fb?
if yes
go back and get madreds razor
if no
go back and get boots

I will basically go the item build in the vid (with IE instead of gunblade though..)

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

December 26 2010 11:47 GMT

#31

TF #1 counter against Eve.

I think I have to get Banshee's instead of Hexdrinker against TF teams... That should keep my stealth up.

HeavOnEarth

United States7087 Posts

December 26 2010 13:44 GMT

#32

o_o eve looks pretty fun

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

January 04 2011 21:13 GMT

#33

Razor -> Boots -> Vamp*

Is Vamp vampiric sceptor? What does the * mean?

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

January 04 2011 21:37 GMT

#34

On January 05 2011 06:13 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Razor -> Boots -> Vamp*

Is Vamp vampiric sceptor? What does the * mean?

Probably "situational", seeing how he also wrote "Mejais* ".

And yes, obviously Vampiric Scepter. I personally prefer building it straight into a Wriggle's, but if you want to get a Bloodrazor you might want to skip that. The life steal definitely is good on Eve since you can't really rely on kills/assists for healing while you are jungling, and you don't want to gank at 30% HP.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

January 04 2011 22:15 GMT

#35

what kind of boots for dps? boots of mobility? For tank its always merc right?

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 04 2011 22:21 GMT

#36

On January 05 2011 07:15 zulu_nation8 wrote:
what kind of boots for dps? boots of mobility? For tank its always merc right?

I've stuck with Wiggles, Mobility, Trinity for the past two patches and it's worked wonders for me.

zulu_nation8

China26351 Posts

January 04 2011 22:24 GMT

#37

Do you get razors first? Also is GA the best first defense item? For masteries is it fine to skip HP for movement speed?

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 04 2011 22:33 GMT

#38

Cloth + hp pots => Razor => Boots => Wiggles => Sheen => Mobility => Trinity => Surviabilty

I prefer Banshee as first defensive item right after Trinity. Spell block too good for a "squishy" dps.

Smite/Ghost, 1/8/21
8 Defensive Tree for SoS

With Wiggles, you should be able to keep your hp at 75%+ at all times. Gank only when you're sure you can get away. Dive only when you're sure you can score a kill/assist. Eve doesn't need much HP. Just play smart, not "brave".

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

January 04 2011 23:01 GMT

#39

I swear by opening Red Elix, Wriggles + Boots1. Then Sheen and Mercs, but depending on the game I might get another Null Magic Mantle or a HoG before Sheen. Hexdrinker against typical magic damage, Banshees only if I want to counter a certain ability, especially TF's ult and Nidalee's traps.
Lately I've been going for Brutalizer->Ghostblade as damage items after Sheen, although Triforce still is a nice item. Sheen definitely is a good item on Eve even if you don't get your Triforce very quickly.
Lichbane/straight AP is pretty much the only path I wouldn't go as Eve. Almost everything else makes sense under the right circumstances.

I'm usually spamming wards almost as if I were Janna. Although I seem to do that on a lot of champs lately...

Hynda

Sweden2226 Posts

January 04 2011 23:49 GMT

#40

How is hextech gunblade viewed for her? I like to play at least one of two games trying to figure out a hero on my own before I read up on how they are supposed to be played. But I've played a few games with Eve now and as soon as I get hextech my viability just skyrockets. But then again, there could be better items that would have a even greater effect for that ammount of cash. But it was rather hillarious getting a full nuke from Annie only to see my hp bar skyrocket straight up again.