The last time I saw hotshot play him (about 3-4 weeks ago) he went:

Boots+Pots
2x Dring
Sheen -> Deathcap (Sorcboots somewhere between sheen and the first AP item)
Lichbane
Zhonyas

TacToSs

Australia330 Posts

June 11 2011 04:35 GMT

#84

I think jiji usually goes

Dring
Dring + boots
Deathcap
Sheen/lichbane
sorc boots
zhonya

I notice he likes to leave his boots really late

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 11 2011 10:42 GMT

#85

Jiji always starts boots. Without it, you can't threaten Gold Card.

locodoco

Korea (South)1615 Posts

June 11 2011 12:51 GMT

#86

standard high elo tf

9/0/21

ignite or exhaust / flash (yes,u dont need ghost)

magic pen reds
ap/lvl yellows and blues
flat ap or magic pen quints (flat ap better for early,magic pen better for mid game but flat ap catches up once u get lichbane and deathcap)

get W level 1 for teamfights,pulling buffs,lane control etc
max Q,take E at 4,max W
R whenever u can

start boot x 3 pots->1~2 doran rings-> deatcap -> lichbane -> zhonya -> voidstaff

random tips

-spam W early in lane to maintain mana,harass opponents,push out lane. hit fast 6 and gank asap

-W icon changes color when ur "picking" ur card, so u can use ult look at the lane u wanna port to and pick a card while not looking at ur champ and port in

-fastest way to clear creeps is to red card the 2nd melee minion and Q straight down the melee and the ranged creeps when they are coming at u in a line(when they haven't clashed with ur creeps yet)

-its always good to make sure ur E is stacked before porting in for a gank

-animation canceling(auto->moving->auto) is especially important as tf due to his slow natural attack speed and quirky animation

-pretty basic tip,u can use the hourglass active while porting with ult for unstoppable port !!!

Iplaythings

Denmark9110 Posts

June 11 2011 21:36 GMT

#87

wouldnt you get void before zhonya ? It seems to me that's a pretty situational order.

and ap tf is often fucked if he gets close enough that zhonya is needed :C

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 11 2011 22:01 GMT

#88

Zhonya is so that you can start your utli and Zhonya while it's still going. 100% safe ulti to run away as long as you can start the teleport portion.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

June 11 2011 22:02 GMT

#89

On June 12 2011 07:01 dnastyx wrote:
Zhonya is so that you can start your utli and Zhonya while it's still going. 100% safe ulti to run away as long as you can start the teleport portion.

This. You can't really die easily and you can abuse your OP BD by just pushing a tower and ulting out no matter what.

Wala.Revolution

7584 Posts

June 11 2011 22:54 GMT

#90

I was running HPL yellows to give him some buff to HP but I forgot to consider a couple rings -_-

And yeah, TF OP.

Deezl

United States355 Posts

June 12 2011 05:43 GMT

#91

AP/Attackspeed TF is the strongest. There's no reason to skip out on Rageblade on him ever, its such a good item due to his low cooldowns and attackspeed proc. I think the build goes like Mana Crystal, Boots, Sheen, Berserker Greaves, Rageblade. After that, Sword of the Divine, LicheBane, Zhonya's.

T-Fate when properly used puts a time limit on the opponent's ability to win the game because he can push any lane at any time extremely quickly AND still be available to defend if a teamfight occurs using the combination of his ult and Teleport. If not properly defended T-Fate can easily win games on his own. By continuously lane-jumping you get a lot of gold and exp and the threat of T-Fate ganks forces opponents to bunch up, limiting their own farm and xp.

T-Fate pairs well with teammates that defend effectively. Morgana (and Lux in some cases), Malzahar, and Caitlin come to mind. Raw push compositions like T-Fate/Sivir can win the game very quickly against unprepared squads.

Push T-Fate is hard countered by Pantheon, who can respond to your teleports with his own ult and prevent you from pushing, and then murder you in the 1v1 situation that follows after. One of the things that really prevents a lot of T-Fate usage is the threat of a Pantheon pick, and most pro teams know enough to ban T-Fate if Pantheon gets banned (or just gank him to hell early and delay his tele).

And the reason you level E over W is so that you can push towers like a boss. Stop trying to teamfight everyone with T-Fate.

BlackPaladin

United States9316 Posts

June 12 2011 05:55 GMT

#92

Note*

*The above post is exactly how you do not play TF.

Listen to locodoco he knows what he's talking about.

739

Bearded Elder29905 Posts

June 12 2011 06:28 GMT

#93

On June 12 2011 14:43 Deezl wrote:
AP/Attackspeed TF is the strongest. There's no reason to skip out on Rageblade on him ever.

I stopped reading here.

dnastyx

United States2707 Posts

June 12 2011 06:35 GMT

#94

One of the things that really prevents a lot of T-Fate usage is the threat of a Pantheon pick, and most pro teams know enough to ban T-Fate if Pantheon gets banned (or just gank him to hell early and delay his tele).

Please tell me which pro teams ban Pantheon.

EDIT: Wait, I heard the SEA teams ban Panth because their best player is a Panth player?

nyxnyxnyx

Indonesia2978 Posts

June 12 2011 06:45 GMT

#95

the build loco suggests is optimized, follow it

barbsq

United States5348 Posts

June 15 2011 19:57 GMT

#96

On June 12 2011 15:45 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
the build loco suggests is optimized, follow it

its the best for ap tf, but i also feel like aspeed/proc based tf has a place in the game as well. i usually go something along the lines of sotd/gb/pdancer or something along those lines (he has a shitton of situational items so its kinda hard to give a real core build except for sotd) with exhaust/flash instead of ignite, and then run 15/0/15 masteries when i want to do that sort of build

And the reason you level E over W is so that you can push towers like a boss. Stop trying to teamfight everyone with T-Fate.

yeah, kus e totally procs on towers.....

edit: i suppose i shouldnt be so mean, i remember way back when when i argued with smash over tf builds and advocated some fucktarded hybrid build. i was such a bear cub back then

Navi

5286 Posts

June 15 2011 20:16 GMT

#97

T-Fate best Fate
always gate, always bait

its a lot easier to have frontloaded damage on towers with AP stack / lich procs, especially in situations where you are pushing / splitpushing coordinated-ly with your team, as the time intervals where you can hit a tower without threat of getting cc-comboed are quite small.

Mogwai

United States13274 Posts

June 15 2011 20:22 GMT

#98

everyone's a scrub at first. it's just annoying when they come in here talking about "no reason to skip out on Rageblade on him ever" and "pro teams knowing about the Pantheon ban" to someone like Loco. it would be nice if people entering gaming communities did so with a little bit of humility, but experience has taught me not to expect this.