EPT[Champion] Nidalee - Page 10
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crate
United States2474 Posts
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Simple
United States801 Posts
they plan on removing the dodge from her cougar form as well | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
And the point is, you can't just nerf Nidalee's heal, leave all the other ridiculous sustain heroes the same, and expect her to still be a balanced solo top. If they did all of these changes at once then sure, I'd agree that everything's fine because frankly her heal IS too strong. The problem is, there's a shitload of sustain abilities that are too strong right now and they've only nerfed one of them unless there are a bunch of extra sustain changes they didn't mention in the patch preview (counting common solo heroes only). | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
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Deranes
Germany75 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
I've been building a tear early. Heal costs insane mana now so you need a tear because you'll run oom even with blue. With deathcap and AA your heal will still be really strong. Javelin is a 4 second cooldown with 40cdr now. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On August 25 2011 07:46 HazMat wrote: The CD pounce isn't all that bad. Just run cdr blues + 21 util and you'll already be at less than 3 seconds. Uh ... what? Full CDR blues is 5.85%, the offense + util mastery puts you at 14.85%. That only puts you at a 3.4 second pounce, need another 10% CDR to even get it back to where it was before. EDIT: Also, CDR blues are 100% useless on every other hero in the game so you need a rune page specifically for Nidalee now. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 25 2011 07:49 arnath wrote: Uh ... what? Full CDR blues is 5.85%, the offense + util mastery puts you at 14.85%. That only puts you at a 3.4 second pounce, need another 10% CDR to even get it back to where it was before. EDIT: Also, CDR blues are 100% useless on every other hero in the game so you need a rune page specifically for Nidalee now. With only 8 cdr, I'm at 3.19 secs. I just need cdr quints. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 25 2011 09:08 arnath wrote: Are you sure the tooltip just isn't wrong? Patch notes said 4 seconds while your results would indicate 3.5 seconds (which is what the original notes posted by Shurelia said). I think patch notes were wrong. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Fuckkkk this champ then. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
Honestly, what pisses me off the most about these Nidalee changes is the fact that Riot (and Phreak in particular) continue to act like they buffed her or something when they in fact fucked the shit out of most of her kit. They took her from a cool multidimensional character with a slightly too strong heal to basically a spearbot. | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 25 2011 09:24 arnath wrote: How did you find out for sure? Honestly, what pisses me off the most about these Nidalee changes is the fact that Riot (and Phreak in particular) continue to act like they buffed her or something when they in fact fucked the shit out of most of her kit. They took her from a cool multidimensional character with a slightly too strong heal to basically a spearbot. I took my ipod's stopwatch and pressed it at the same time as I pressed pounce. 4 seconds. I pm'd moonbear about it. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Boots + 3hp solotop Warmogs Atmas Spirit Visage Triforce or FoN Not sure about Spirit Visage but I like it more than Frozen heart. It also buffs your heal by ~30 at lvl 5. Apen reds // Hp per level Yellows // CDR blues // Apen quints | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On September 16 2011 07:55 HazMat wrote: Ok this patch Tank Nid is pretty sick. Just use heal for ASPD buff on carry or yourself and cougar to the frontline. Boots + 3hp solotop Warmogs Atmas Spirit Visage Triforce or FoN Not sure about Spirit Visage but I like it more than Frozen heart. It also buffs your heal by ~30 at lvl 5. Apen reds // Hp per level Yellows // CDR blues // Apen quints So basically Nid is a tanky melee dps now? lol So much for Riot wanting to get rid of that trend >.> | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 16 2011 09:25 Ryuu314 wrote: So basically Nid is a tanky melee dps now? lol So much for Riot wanting to get rid of that trend >.> To be fair, Riot DID want Nidalee to use Cougar form more in fights, and this change does just that. | ||
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