EPT[Champion] Kennen - Page 7
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Juicyfruit
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-Kato-
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
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 .On April 16 2011 01:38 -Kato- wrote: What about Hextech revolver with the new 20% spell vamp, sort of a catalyst for Kennen? Or useless? Bad idea, as it delays Kennen's core items and doesn't provide sufficient AP for teambattles. | ||
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Juicyfruit
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Right now Kennen should be maxing R>Q>E>W. W is a really bad spell because it really doesn't add enough damage, whereas the extra tankiness and mobility from maxing E earlier helps a lot. | ||
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UniversalSnip
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
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On April 16 2011 12:41 Juicyfruit wrote: If Kennen gets focused while in pikachu mode he's deceptively tanky. Right now Kennen should be maxing R>Q>E>W. W is a really bad spell because it really doesn't add enough damage, whereas the extra tankiness and mobility from maxing E earlier helps a lot. Really ? :/ I was Playing R>Q>E/W before the nerf and also R>W>E>Q. With Q what u only can do is poke, in a teamfight it is just a bad spell IMO, since it drains ur energy to get out of the center of the fight and is not reliable enough to hit someone, since it's oftentimes very hard to have a clear path between u and their low HP carry. Therefore it's only good for 1vs1 battles/chasing and poking. That is why I'm still playing R>W>E>Q, because it's actually more dmg that u deal during a fight, and it is more reliable + better for farming. With Q 1st u need Rylais to clear a wave, with W 1st u can do it earlier and much more easier. I agree that Kennen is more tanky in pikachu mode ;D , but still once focused, he's dead very fast. | ||
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-Kato-
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You have discovered a whole new Kennen for me I love you, 1 point in Q then R>W>E>Q, real AoE boss now. | ||
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barbsq
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-Kato-
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Maybe im just bad and can't hit Q's, but I feel its much easier to Q people later in the game rather than in lane phase. | ||
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Juicyfruit
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
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On April 17 2011 22:05 -Kato- wrote: ^ You have discovered a whole new Kennen for me I love you, 1 point in Q then R>W>E>Q, real AoE boss now. Actually that was before the Mark nerf, try R>E>W>Q you are even more tanky with E and it deals more dmg than W. For noob stomping purposes u can go blue elixir + 6 hp pots then boots + Meija , -> sorcs > Cap rush  Thats hilarious if u snowball :D , i just got 28-0 with it and 850 AP in around 33 minutes. For real games though, try to be more cautious and only rush with E only if u know u can kill/or have a good chance to kill them. Thats all. To play Kennen, with E + W max first it will be just easier not only because of more AOE but also because of the easy farming combo. If you want to try my Kennen build pm me , I am not as bad as my ELO says  , just trolling much | ||
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
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On April 17 2011 23:07 barbsq wrote: NOT maxing q first seems a bit questionable to me seeing as how q (from my experience with kennen) is how he exerts the vast majority of his lane dominance. Sure, you may theoretically be able to farm faster with maxing w/e first, but no opponent in their right mind is just gonna let you lightning rush thru his creeps without making you seriously pay for it It's actually easier to get lane dominance with W + E , because E gives MR and W passive is instant mark and W is 100% hit. You don't even need to aim. Even if you skill Q max , you do the Q -> W combo in lane to get dominace, but it does only a little more damage than W passive -> W, but in comparision is much more difficult to pull of. | ||
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Juicyfruit
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When I max Q, sometimes hitting a single Q at level 9 can win you the lane because Q -> [stall] -> W -> flash -> R (first tick stuns) -> Q -> E -> autattacks -> Q is a stupid amount of burst. | ||
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ArC_man
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eaT_Mi_Lquid
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On April 19 2011 02:13 ArC_man wrote: I'm not sold on maxing E before W. Kennen with W>E becomes a beast farmer/pusher. IMO he needs those levels in W to flash farm midgame so he can participate in important teamfights/skirmishes instead of afk farming (since his lategame potential isn't as great as other carries). E doesn't give that much armor/mr... you don't become some super tank midgame if you max that (especially if you're going for a build like 2 NRL into Zhonya + Deathcap). But what's the difference between E and W in farming ? You need E to tag them all then W. Both are AOE and E does more dmg than W (base, AP ratio in mid game about the same) . So i think E > W is better. | ||
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Juicyfruit
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-Kato-
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AS reds and quints, 2dblades>IE, and then an AS item. You have an escape, Q helps u stun and hit early, and your W will make u stun like crazy. Use ult only for protection, assassin jumping onto you? Ult and kill him while he gets stunned 80 times (or more). His abilities dont scale with AD, but... stuns, stuns everywhere. So, why is he bad? | ||
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Tooplark
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-Kato-
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My question is, is he viable? Why do I do much better with AD Kennen than with Ashe, Trist Corki... etc. Maybe I just suck at AD carries. | ||
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