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Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-24 02:02:56
December 24 2010 02:01 GMT
#81
Alright, it appears I'm doing MUCH better with kennan now.. starting to get the hang of his ult and timing it with w. getting good stuns off is sooooooooooo important omg.

Suffice to say I'm using Salce's build with the build order discussed in this thread because of CDR runes. makes harassment so much better and there is rarely a time where I don't absolutely own the lane.

He's quickly becoming my favorite champion
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
December 24 2010 23:58 GMT
#82
And then you'll hit 1800 rating and everyone will know not to hug you when you press R and he'll turn into a "meh" hero cause the only thing you'll be doing is spamming Q & W.

Or is that just me ._.?

if you like kennen I'd also like to suggest trieing out the other cool AP heroes, Lux, Kassadin and Anivia, they are now the light of my day instead of Kennen. :D
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 25 2010 05:11 GMT
#83
On December 25 2010 08:58 mercurial wrote:
And then you'll hit 1800 rating and everyone will know not to hug you when you press R and he'll turn into a "meh" hero cause the only thing you'll be doing is spamming Q & W.

Or is that just me ._.?

if you like kennen I'd also like to suggest trieing out the other cool AP heroes, Lux, Kassadin and Anivia, they are now the light of my day instead of Kennen. :D


As someone who is gaining ELO rapidly playing Kennen, this is sorta interesting. That said, Lux seems terrible, I have yet to get the hang of kassadin, and Anivia is expensive. I'll throw out Leblanc as an incredibly fun, reasonably viable AP hero.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 25 2010 10:19 GMT
#84
On December 25 2010 08:58 mercurial wrote:
And then you'll hit 1800 rating and everyone will know not to hug you when you press R and he'll turn into a "meh" hero cause the only thing you'll be doing is spamming Q & W.

Or is that just me ._.?

if you like kennen I'd also like to suggest trieing out the other cool AP heroes, Lux, Kassadin and Anivia, they are now the light of my day instead of Kennen. :D

Maybe you could start using Flash and suddenly they can't just run from your R that easily?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
December 26 2010 07:09 GMT
#85
LOL I've had a few VERY bad R's, and then my team would just go "..wtf kennen?" However, It's pretty bi in teamfights. I'll usually only use it if Itls like the last skill i can use to get a kill off of someone who's running OR if thre's a massive teamfight and people need the stuns. Stuns are so big with the ult it's insane how it can change a teamfight.

But yeah, using his ult is like knowing when to use fiddle's ult or twitch. Have to use it at a time where everyone is fighting and you can just go in, do your job, get the fuck out, and then start chicking shurikens and w'ing.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 26 2010 19:33 GMT
#86
On December 26 2010 16:09 Dave[9] wrote:
LOL I've had a few VERY bad R's, and then my team would just go "..wtf kennen?" However, It's pretty bi in teamfights. I'll usually only use it if Itls like the last skill i can use to get a kill off of someone who's running OR if thre's a massive teamfight and people need the stuns. Stuns are so big with the ult it's insane how it can change a teamfight.

But yeah, using his ult is like knowing when to use fiddle's ult or twitch. Have to use it at a time where everyone is fighting and you can just go in, do your job, get the fuck out, and then start chicking shurikens and w'ing.


I've had some pretty epic R's. My all-time favorite was when I had just hit 6 in lane. I was at tower, typing something to teammates, and accidentally hit R while chat wasn't opened. The lane was semi-pushed, so the enemy laner could see me, but was nowhere near me. They were like "WTF?"
Odds
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada1188 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 11:52:28
December 27 2010 11:37 GMT
#87
Can somebody tell me how the fuck Kennen is a remotely balanced character?

-Most CC in the game
-best laning in the game
-Completely unkillable
-Enormous damage from start to finish of the game

fucking broken, garbage bullshit character

Remove him from the game like twitch imo, I'm sick of dealing with terrible kens that autowin because of their champ select

yes, imad
Odds.633, AM. Plat level currently. Would love more practice partners, add me, let's play!
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-27 14:40:44
December 27 2010 14:01 GMT
#88
On December 25 2010 14:11 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 08:58 mercurial wrote:
And then you'll hit 1800 rating and everyone will know not to hug you when you press R and he'll turn into a "meh" hero cause the only thing you'll be doing is spamming Q & W.

Or is that just me ._.?

if you like kennen I'd also like to suggest trieing out the other cool AP heroes, Lux, Kassadin and Anivia, they are now the light of my day instead of Kennen. :D


As someone who is gaining ELO rapidly playing Kennen, this is sorta interesting. That said, Lux seems terrible, I have yet to get the hang of kassadin, and Anivia is expensive. I'll throw out Leblanc as an incredibly fun, reasonably viable AP hero.

Lux is such a good character it isn't even funny. You can carry a team so well as her just by setting your team up with kills and putting out surprising burst at the same time. I would also add Malzahar do that list as he just always seems to start snowballing at lev13 for me without fail. I seriously need to purchase him but he does so well I almost feel as guilty as playing Kennen.

On December 27 2010 20:37 Odds wrote:
Can somebody tell me how the fuck Kennen is a remotely balanced character?

-Most CC in the game
-best laning in the game
-Completely unkillable
-Enormous damage from start to finish of the game

fucking broken, garbage bullshit character

Remove him from the game like twitch imo, I'm sick of dealing with terrible kens that autowin because of their champ select

yes, imad

He isn't balanced atm imo. If I were to attempt to balance him I would say that his Q and W have to be adjusted so that his Q does slightly more damage with his W doing slightly less. His passive needs to charge his attack something like every 8 or 10 attacks rather than the 4 (I think it's 4?). But he is an insanely fun character to play because he is broken :D

*edited because I said his E instead of W...
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 27 2010 18:37 GMT
#89
On December 27 2010 23:01 Scorcher2k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2010 14:11 oberon wrote:
On December 25 2010 08:58 mercurial wrote:
And then you'll hit 1800 rating and everyone will know not to hug you when you press R and he'll turn into a "meh" hero cause the only thing you'll be doing is spamming Q & W.

Or is that just me ._.?

if you like kennen I'd also like to suggest trieing out the other cool AP heroes, Lux, Kassadin and Anivia, they are now the light of my day instead of Kennen. :D


As someone who is gaining ELO rapidly playing Kennen, this is sorta interesting. That said, Lux seems terrible, I have yet to get the hang of kassadin, and Anivia is expensive. I'll throw out Leblanc as an incredibly fun, reasonably viable AP hero.

Lux is such a good character it isn't even funny. You can carry a team so well as her just by setting your team up with kills and putting out surprising burst at the same time. I would also add Malzahar do that list as he just always seems to start snowballing at lev13 for me without fail. I seriously need to purchase him but he does so well I almost feel as guilty as playing Kennen.

Show nested quote +
On December 27 2010 20:37 Odds wrote:
Can somebody tell me how the fuck Kennen is a remotely balanced character?

-Most CC in the game
-best laning in the game
-Completely unkillable
-Enormous damage from start to finish of the game

fucking broken, garbage bullshit character

Remove him from the game like twitch imo, I'm sick of dealing with terrible kens that autowin because of their champ select

yes, imad

He isn't balanced atm imo. If I were to attempt to balance him I would say that his Q and W have to be adjusted so that his Q does slightly more damage with his W doing slightly less. His passive needs to charge his attack something like every 8 or 10 attacks rather than the 4 (I think it's 4?). But he is an insanely fun character to play because he is broken :D

*edited because I said his E instead of W...


Kennen is a lot like Fiddle in that if you don't know where he is he can zoom out and destroy you. If you're getting hosed by him, buy a negatron item (FoN, Veil, and QSash are all good) and some wards.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
December 27 2010 19:36 GMT
#90
the difference is that even if you know where he is he can zoom out and destroy you.

herp derp roll face on keyboard and penta kill herp derp

kennen does not know the meaning of the word "overcommit"
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
December 27 2010 19:48 GMT
#91
On December 27 2010 20:37 Odds wrote:
Can somebody tell me how the fuck Kennen is a remotely balanced character?

-Most CC in the game
-best laning in the game
-Completely unkillable
-Enormous damage from start to finish of the game

fucking broken, garbage bullshit character

Remove him from the game like twitch imo, I'm sick of dealing with terrible kens that autowin because of their champ select

yes, imad

well thats odd.
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Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
December 27 2010 23:06 GMT
#92
Can anyone explain why I would want to get mr/18 blues instead of flat cooldown blues?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 27 2010 23:45 GMT
#93
I don't play Kennen, but some possible reasons:
Kennen likes to lightning rush -> ulti 1v5 (sometimes his allies are near him as well). MRes helps survive stunts like these.
Kennen uses quite a bit of energy. If you are already limited by energy regen then CDR is useless.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 28 2010 00:41 GMT
#94
On December 28 2010 08:06 Dave[9] wrote:
Can anyone explain why I would want to get mr/18 blues instead of flat cooldown blues?


I run CDR blues. One thing to note is that W has a channel time -- you need significant CDR before you can double-W (basically, you need an item or blue buff, even with runes/masteries). So the CDR is fine, but not as big a deal as it could be.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 31 2010 15:36 GMT
#95
really wanna try this guild, but i dont have energy runes =/
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 01 2011 11:09 GMT
#96
You just need to lvl W twice.
I swapped away from Kennen because after the easy mode 1700 rating climb he becomes less viable due to teams knowing they can actually silence and kill him before he can pull of a succesfull ulti (which is why alot of players vow by zhonya's on him first)

Hes not OP unless your shit, if you've played Kennen you know how to fight him, that being said his lane dominance is quite high, comparable to Mordecaisers, however suprisingly enough gets outdone by Morgana. if she hits Q once you die if you hit q 10 times she'll be like "lol, I got spellvamp, bitch"

The game is moving away from the AOE ult thing and Kennen is gonna turn out to be less interesting unless AOE gets a buff again.

That said I understand how you guys feel that he is OP with how easy it is to hit stuns even with no skill.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 01 2011 17:23 GMT
#97
On January 01 2011 20:09 mercurial wrote:
You just need to lvl W twice.
I swapped away from Kennen because after the easy mode 1700 rating climb he becomes less viable due to teams knowing they can actually silence and kill him before he can pull of a succesfull ulti (which is why alot of players vow by zhonya's on him first)

Hes not OP unless your shit, if you've played Kennen you know how to fight him, that being said his lane dominance is quite high, comparable to Mordecaisers, however suprisingly enough gets outdone by Morgana. if she hits Q once you die if you hit q 10 times she'll be like "lol, I got spellvamp, bitch"

The game is moving away from the AOE ult thing and Kennen is gonna turn out to be less interesting unless AOE gets a buff again.

That said I understand how you guys feel that he is OP with how easy it is to hit stuns even with no skill.


On the subject of builds, while zhonya's is pretty good, you can also go Rylai (HP) -> Abyssal (MR) -> GA (or any other armor item you like) and be almost an offtank as Kennen. You don't hit as hard, of course. If you're worried about silence (or CC in general), you can do merc treads -> void staff instead of sorc boots/guise -- you'll kill squishies slower, but be better against tanks, and resist CC.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 09 2011 15:41 GMT
#98
New Kennen build: CDR boots, rylai's, deathcap, abyssal, hourglass, void staff.
Therealdevil
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1021 Posts
January 09 2011 15:48 GMT
#99
apparently games take 80 mins now ._.
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 09 2011 15:53 GMT
#100
So, with the new deathcap item, is kennen finally considered a completly OP and broken character?
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
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