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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-30 17:09:44
November 30 2011 17:07 GMT
#261
Running in isn't really how teemo does business, even with a bruiser build it's still better to kite (which can still occur while chasing, courtesy of mallet and movequick).

But yeah, AS on hit build is def the way to go. Wits end, wriggles, mallet, MBR all work really well in certain situations.

Never tried rageblade... it sounds fun tho, as I'm constantly AA-ing with him anyway. Maybe even gunblade for super trolling.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 30 2011 17:16 GMT
#262
screw gunblade, void staff core item :D
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
November 30 2011 17:35 GMT
#263
wits end is just ridiculous for a solo mid hero. so much survivability and damage for so cheap. makes me wanna try it on more heroes (solo mid cait with wits end? l0l)
cool beans
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
December 01 2011 22:57 GMT
#264
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Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-20 22:00:41
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#265
Does anyone open D ring?

Because lately I've been opening D-ring for some early lane presence and the mana regen is really nice for poking with your Q.

Recently I have been trying an uber AP build, that opens Malady into Nashors tooth, into WOTA. I know it sounds crazy, but the lifesteal allows you to lay super shrooms ad farm entire waves for health gold and EXP. very useful mid-late game.

And I have some more questions: Does his E qualify for Spell Vamp?
And which boots are better for an AP teemo?

Retgery
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1229 Posts
January 31 2012 20:26 GMT
#266
I think teemo deserves a bump.
Do you guys typically go for AP or AD/AS? I'm trying to find main teemo. What do you guys usually buy for defence?
Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
January 31 2012 20:42 GMT
#267
aspd proc items and tankiness

things like frozen mallet, wits end, etc.
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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 13 2012 09:23 GMT
#268
AP Teemo, what up? Where do you guys draw the line between straight AP, and going for CDR. I always find myself drawn to aiming for 40% cdr, just cause I like quantity over quality.

Anyway, how do you guys build him?
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
February 13 2012 10:14 GMT
#269
can someone detail me on how teemo v nidalee is supposed to play out?
i feel like they're both early-game champs that trail off in the mid and lategame, but neither can really push the other out of lane once either has wriggles. pre-wriggles might be iffy for teemo but i don't feel like it's impossible. and they both kinda do nothing after laning except push so is either an acceptable "counterpick" to the other?
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R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
February 13 2012 13:30 GMT
#270
I think nidalee can outplay teemo early in lane but at the same time risks getting pushed in too hard if harassing and lane control aren't balanced well. I would like to think teemo wins in the midgame if he's aggressive and wards correctly. His damage scales a bit better than nidalee's in the midgame and he can kite just as well as nidalee can pounce. And blinding dart OP. After that both are probably too tanky to kill each other and it becomes a farm off... without ganking of course
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2012 18:12 GMT
#271
Question about Teemos items lategame.

Let's say I have my "core" of: Wriggles, Mercs, Wits End, FM, Atmas...

I now have 5/6 slots filled and 10k gold. What do I do?

Obvious change: Wriggles -> BT.

What else? What's my 6th item? When does it make sense to get LW/Voidstaff and which increases my dps the most when? =S


Let's say I'm sitting on BT, Mercs, Wits, FM, Atmas, LW. That wits end is not a slot effective item atm. Sub it with Bloodrazor? Did it then make sense to have built a LW or should it be a Voidstaff now?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
February 27 2012 18:43 GMT
#272
Personally I go a more magic dmg build, malady + wits + MBR, and then a late voidstaff if needed.

Assuming you want to keep your build the same, wriggles into BT makes sense, as does wits into MBR. then potentially mercs for PD (maybe even PD for your wits?). LW makes sense in your build, but I'm not sure if your build is optimal anyway.

I dunno, I'm just so used to building Teemo with on hit magic damage items. Not really sure what to make of a more AD build. I feel like magic on hit dmg synergizes with his kit better (AP from malady increases skill damage, late voidstaff provides pen for all of your damage).
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 27 2012 18:54 GMT
#273
nidalee wins easily post-6 in my eperience. cougar skills just hit too hard and she sustains noticeably harder with her heal.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
February 27 2012 19:00 GMT
#274
There's really two ways to build Teemo lategame. You can keep building AD, things like black cleaver are especially scary on him, but you're only going to be good at bursting carries. But if you're sticking with on-hit, a late MBR followed by voidstaff is how you keep all your procs relevant. Wits, MBR, and voidstaff makes Teemo the tank melter.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2012 19:34 GMT
#275
On February 28 2012 04:00 Offhand wrote:
There's really two ways to build Teemo lategame. You can keep building AD, things like black cleaver are especially scary on him, but you're only going to be good at bursting carries. But if you're sticking with on-hit, a late MBR followed by voidstaff is how you keep all your procs relevant. Wits, MBR, and voidstaff makes Teemo the tank melter.


So what you're saying is that I should end up with:

a) Mercs, BT, FM, Atmas, LW and... what instead of Wits? PD? ... or

b) Mercs, Wits, MBR, Void, FM, Atmas?

That would make sense.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 27 2012 19:40 GMT
#276
On February 28 2012 04:34 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:00 Offhand wrote:
There's really two ways to build Teemo lategame. You can keep building AD, things like black cleaver are especially scary on him, but you're only going to be good at bursting carries. But if you're sticking with on-hit, a late MBR followed by voidstaff is how you keep all your procs relevant. Wits, MBR, and voidstaff makes Teemo the tank melter.


So what you're saying is that I should end up with:

a) Mercs, BT, FM, Atmas, LW and... what instead of Wits? PD? ... or

b) Mercs, Wits, MBR, Void, FM, Atmas?

That would make sense.

I disagree strongly.

Neither of these builds have wriggle's, which is essentially core on Teemo.

Wriggle's, boots, mallet, pd, atma's, GA/Banshee's/Omen
or
Wriggle's, boots, wit's, mallet, MBR, GA/Banshee's/Omen

boots can be zerkers, mercs or tabi, depending on game.

Teemo doesn't have the range or escapes to build squishy dps with LW/Void, you need to be devoting that spot to a defensive item.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2012 19:46 GMT
#277
As I said above, I'm asking for uberlategame.

You'd still keep Wriggles when you're at 6 items with 5k+ gold left?
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
February 27 2012 19:48 GMT
#278
On February 28 2012 04:46 r.Evo wrote:
As I said above, I'm asking for uberlategame.

You'd still keep Wriggles when you're at 6 items with 5k+ gold left?

games like these are a myth as far as I'm concerned. You could replace it with Bloodthirster if you really wanted to, idc about how you spend your 15K-20K gold.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
February 27 2012 20:21 GMT
#279
On February 28 2012 03:12 r.Evo wrote:
Question about Teemos items lategame.

Let's say I have my "core" of: Wriggles, Mercs, Wits End, FM, Atmas...

I now have 5/6 slots filled and 10k gold. What do I do?

Obvious change: Wriggles -> BT.

What else? What's my 6th item? When does it make sense to get LW/Voidstaff and which increases my dps the most when? =S


Let's say I'm sitting on BT, Mercs, Wits, FM, Atmas, LW. That wits end is not a slot effective item atm. Sub it with Bloodrazor? Did it then make sense to have built a LW or should it be a Voidstaff now?

I don't think going Atma on Teemo is a good idea, a MBR should be way more useful if the enemy team get multi Warmog which I think they are. And Teemo with BT, FM, Wits will crush any AD carry in no time. Your 6th item should be an surviving item like an Angel Guardian or a Banshee depending on the enemy team.

I think high elo/pro should try teemo up top more if they pick a really tanky jungler. What do you guys think of that?
Terran
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 27 2012 20:23 GMT
#280
On February 28 2012 04:48 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2012 04:46 r.Evo wrote:
As I said above, I'm asking for uberlategame.

You'd still keep Wriggles when you're at 6 items with 5k+ gold left?

games like these are a myth as far as I'm concerned. You could replace it with Bloodthirster if you really wanted to, idc about how you spend your 15K-20K gold.


dno, I asked because once I sit on Wriggles/Boots/Wits/FM/Atmas I have no clue what to get next. =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
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