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How do you fight mass Ravager PvZ?

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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 21:37:08
November 18 2015 21:33 GMT
#1
No, seriously..

I was going for Blink Stalkers/Disruptors.

Any time I try to engage he spams Corrosive Bile at me and I need to move back. So I can't ever really engage him.

I keep getting good disruptor hits but they're so far in between that they're not enough for me to be able to engage with the rest of my army.

By the time I have enough disruptors to be able to do meaningful damage, he's got like 6 Ultras on the field.

Basically, Corrosive bile with THAT many Ravagers means I cant ever fight him.....

Please note that this is in a real game not a unit tester... if I try to get Carriers or whatever he just attacks my base and kills me. Suggestions like Carriers/Tempests are not helpful.

In this game I went Nexus first and took an EXTREMELY greedy 3rd vs his 3 hatch play. So my econ was strong.

Also, I have whined about Ravagers plenty in other threads. Just looking for strategic help here pls, no balance discussion.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Startyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Scotland188 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 21:51:52
November 18 2015 21:47 GMT
#2
Have you tried chargelot archon? the ravagers have less hit points, still take the bonus damage from archons and are larger models so more zealots can attack them at once. Corrosive bile is not as effective as you are pushing into them.

Of course the next problem is if they back up into lurkers.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 22:01:38
November 18 2015 22:00 GMT
#3
On November 19 2015 06:47 Startyr wrote:
Of course the next problem is if they back up into lurkers.


Right. Archons are super gas intensive and you run the risk of spending all that money simply to run into Lurkers.

That's why I didn't know what to do.

Zealots don't really play well with Disruptors either.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
halomonian
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil255 Posts
November 18 2015 22:02 GMT
#4
What about blinking forward? you should be a-ok if he didnt have lings to zone you out. I had some success against Ravagers by having templar out . Zealot+Archon seems like a good composition as well, because the ravagers are so big.
thoughts in chaos | enjOy[dream]
Xyik
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada728 Posts
November 18 2015 22:14 GMT
#5
what if you mix in immortals, that way you are ready vs ultras too.
BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 22:23:20
November 18 2015 22:20 GMT
#6
Post a replay, we can help you more. While I haven't faced that specific composition, I'd try getting a bunch of Void Rays, Immortals and Colossus supported by Stalkers. I don't really like Disruptors at all. Their damage is inconsistent, and I still prefer Colossus. Sentries probably aren't a bad idea either, you can force them to waste their shots on forcefields instead of your army.

By the way I saw you play in the NESC2 league, I used to play in that league, and plan to get back into SC2.
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-18 22:24:16
November 18 2015 22:23 GMT
#7
On November 19 2015 07:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Post a replay, we can help you more. While I haven't faced that specific composition, I'd try getting a bunch of Void Rays, Immortals and Colossus supported by Stalkers. I don't really like Disruptors at all. Their damage is inconsistent, and I still prefer Colossus.

By the way I saw you play in the NESC2 league, I used to play in that league, and plan to get back into SC2.


I played you at a LAN once. You beat me 2-1 but at the time I was like Plat and you were Masters. DTs hehe.

EDIT - will post the replay when I get home. I have no idea how to engage that kind of army.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
November 18 2015 23:34 GMT
#8
On November 19 2015 07:20 BronzeKnee wrote:
Post a replay, we can help you more. While I haven't faced that specific composition, I'd try getting a bunch of Void Rays, Immortals and Colossus supported by Stalkers. I don't really like Disruptors at all. Their damage is inconsistent, and I still prefer Colossus. Sentries probably aren't a bad idea either, you can force them to waste their shots on forcefields instead of your army.

By the way I saw you play in the NESC2 league, I used to play in that league, and plan to get back into SC2.



Ive been telling Mo to stop making disruptors but kid wont listen
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
Startyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Scotland188 Posts
November 18 2015 23:38 GMT
#9
Although the ravager has less hitpoints it is not armoured.
12 stalker shots to kill a roach
14 stalker shots to kill a ravager

3 immortal shots to kill a roach
7 immortal shots to kill a ravager

New plan, open with oracles, head to chargelot archon. Keep vision on the army, stasis ward part of it before charging in and use their own units to trap them. If there are lurkers, aim to keep revelation on them and stasis ward them first. Plan to head for chargelot/archon void ray and other air units late game.
FreeZEternal
Profile Joined January 2003
Korea (South)3396 Posts
November 18 2015 23:49 GMT
#10
Your lucky day:

Odowan Paleolithic
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
United States232 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-19 00:42:05
November 19 2015 00:32 GMT
#11
I open oracle carrier void ray although I will take probe loss but I usually have enough carrier (2/3) to roll em over after. O I don't take a 3rd till I have my first carrier building.
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