EPTAutomated Tournaments Coming to Beta - Page 4
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crazedrat
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
For a diamond player like me, there's finally something else to play for than ladder points ! I hope we get bo3/bo5 series as well, so it's worth it to train different builds and adapt to your opponent and it's not just another set of bo1. Still, I'm incredibly hyped for that !! It's gonna be awesome ! As for the details of how they implemented it, I'm trusting Blizz. They probably have a reason as to why they did it like that, and if their implementation has major flaws they'll change/adjust things. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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Noonius
Estonia17413 Posts
On August 20 2015 15:31 shin_toss wrote: 25 mins is short.. i got a lot of 30min games.. tho i think a good side to this is force players to get action for points 25 minute game in lotv is different than 25 minute game in hots | ||
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Libe91
France16 Posts
But any way if i ever find some time i'll try, sounds like fun. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
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swag_bro
Japan782 Posts
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AbouSV
Germany1278 Posts
On August 20 2015 05:24 Silvana wrote: OMG I always thought that all the hype about this Automated Tournaments thing was about doing tournaments with your friends, not random people... I'm so out of the LotV loop! That is actually a very good point! Could be nice to be able to join a tournament as a group. Sure one could argue that this would allow for too much communication / tips and so on, but I'd rather see the bright side! On August 20 2015 17:13 swag_bro wrote: This game is fun as is. Why ruin it by adding tournaments where hackers win? All the finals are probably gonna be hacker vs hacker. If that really become the case, then it would be easy to have automated ban list!  | ||
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
The only problem I see with that is the "level pairing" if you and your friends have a significant level difference: do you make the whole group join a tournament at level of their worst player, best player or an hypothetical group average ? My personnal position is to have the group join the tournament at the level of their best player. This will avoid having master players in the lower level tournaments. The only downside of it could be that some of the master players in the tournament would face a lower level player in their first round, thus effectively having a "free win" in the first round. But I think this would be better than having master players farming the bronze to dia tournaments. | ||
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Ramiz1989
12124 Posts
On August 20 2015 17:02 Sapphire.lux wrote: 25 min might be to low though, maybe 35 is better. It should ensure the tournament runs relatively smoothly but without making players feel time pressured when playing. Yeah, but that is something that can be changed if it becomes a problem. Overall really nice, I like it.  | ||
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Zetter
Germany629 Posts
On August 20 2015 05:26 hitpoint wrote: I don't know how the WC3 system worked but I don't remember having to wait too long. Granted, that was over 12 or 13 years ago. WC3 Tournament games ended after 30 ingame minutes and were then determined by game score. I felt that system worked quite well and the tournaments ran very smoothly. So I'm looking forward for LotV tournaments. | ||
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
On August 20 2015 17:40 LoneYoShi wrote: Indeed, the potential of joining a tournament with friends should be taken into account by Blizzard. The only problem I see with that is the "level pairing" if you and your friends have a significant level difference: do you make the whole group join a tournament at level of their worst player, best player or an hypothetical group average ? My personnal position is to have the group join the tournament at the level of their best player. This will avoid having master players in the lower level tournaments. The only downside of it could be that some of the master players in the tournament would face a lower level player in their first round, thus effectively having a "free win" in the first round. But I think this would be better than having master players farming the bronze to dia tournaments. I'm gonna quote myself to expand even further on that idea: Now that Blizz' is considering adding automated tournaments, it would be nice to have the possibility to organize your own tournaments with friends. Imagine being able to easily organise a in-clan tournament ? Or just a small tournament with 3 friends, without requiring other tools than the game itelf (binary beast for bracket, skype for vetos, etc) ? That would be sick. And since Blizz' has all the UI and functionalities designed for automated tournaments, I don't think it would be too much work. | ||
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SC2Duderino
Austria13 Posts
I am trying to understand, will there be tournaments for all modes, or just 1v1? Would be nice to some 2v2 tournaments. | ||
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Topin
Peru10078 Posts
On August 20 2015 14:56 paralleluniverse wrote: The last 3 screenshots are extremely troubling. Leagues. Why are they still here? Why are they associated with the tournament system? Why isn't this inaccurate and non-credible league system being replaced in LotV? While the idea of using MMR for tournament matchmaking makes a lot of sense allowing everyone a chance at winning, more specifically you have a 1/16 chance of being randomly put in a group where you have the best performance, it risks becoming as meaningless as divisions. Congrats, you're the best out of 16 (or 100 in the case of divisions) arbitrary players. You could be the best because you played really well, or you could be the best due to the RNG putting you into a group where you have the most skill out of the 16 randomly chosen players. Again, it's a good idea to have this mode that allows everyone a chance of winning. But it should also be supplemented with a WC3-style tournament system, where there is a 3.5 hour open queue phase, where anyone can face anyone, and then the top 16 with the highest levels (or points) in the tournament moves onto a 16 player bracket phase. yeah you needed at least 6-1 in your record to advance to the next stage, i dont know if it was round or 16 though. There were also Random vs Random or mirror tournaments, super fun! | ||
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Silvana
3713 Posts
On August 20 2015 18:39 LoneYoShi wrote: I'm gonna quote myself to expand even further on that idea: Now that Blizz' is considering adding automated tournaments, it would be nice to have the possibility to organize your own tournaments with friends. Imagine being able to easily organise a in-clan tournament ? Or just a small tournament with 3 friends, without requiring other tools than the game itelf (binary beast for bracket, skype for vetos, etc) ? That would be sick. And since Blizz' has all the UI and functionalities designed for automated tournaments, I don't think it would be too much work. This is what I meant, closed/private tournaments. Not joining a random tournament in mass. I wonder if it would be too much extra work to add this, and different types of tournaments or flexible settings to pick from :D | ||
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jedi1982
United States172 Posts
Great direction Blizzard | ||
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LoneYoShi
France1348 Posts
On August 20 2015 23:49 Silvana wrote: This is what I meant, closed/private tournaments. Not joining a random tournament in mass. I wonder if it would be too much extra work to add this, and different types of tournaments or flexible settings to pick from :D I like the idea of open tournaments with stranger as it gives you another way to enjoy sc2 than just random bo1 (ladder). But I also agree with you that it would be extra nice to have the opportunity to create tournaments with friends as well. Since Blizz' already designed all the UI and the tournament system, I don't think it would be too much extra work. In their message, they say they're still open to suggestions. Let's hope they see this ! Some kind of in-clan tournament could be good as well. | ||
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
Bo1 tournaments feel kinda lame tbh | ||
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