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LotV closed beta announced to start on March 31 - Page 132

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Thanks to Reddit sleuths, everyone can try the LotV test maps by following instructions here.

Note: This is not a beta key, it is simply access to Vs. AI and a Unit Tester. I have no idea how cool with this Blizzard is or is not, use at your own risk.
ohmylanta1003
Profile Joined February 2015
United States128 Posts
April 01 2015 15:43 GMT
#2621
On April 01 2015 20:10 TT1 wrote:
they even nerfed zealots..


Zealots were not nerfed.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 01 2015 15:44 GMT
#2622
On a second thought, I'm actually glad I didn't get beta on 1st wave. Protoss looks incredibly weak. Warp-in is slower, Naniwa says blink doesn't work properly, colossus is nerfed, immortal is nerfed, etc. Disruptor is the only "OP" unit.
Spiller
Profile Joined September 2014
United States106 Posts
April 01 2015 15:52 GMT
#2623
Rotterdam just showed off the new Carriers, and they do insane DPS. The terran had quite a few vikings, and he had 6-8 carriers (I'm not sure if it would have been enough vikings to kill the old carriers, I think so but its hard to tell when the vikings clump up) and the carriers absolutely smashed everything the terran had without losing much at all. Obviously the problem is still getting to that point, and this terran wasn't as prepared for them as he could be, but they look very strong and the increased movement speed helps a lot as well.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
April 01 2015 16:05 GMT
#2624
Protoss suffers from the economy changes most and then there are the warp-in changes on top of that. They can't be expected to do well at first, unless the adept is powerful enough to make up for it (as an early game unit).
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
HellHound
Profile Joined September 2014
Bulgaria5962 Posts
April 01 2015 16:14 GMT
#2625
On April 01 2015 23:04 BLinD-RawR wrote:
cyclone seems more broken than I thought.

can we just replace it with the Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon.

The Neo Armstrong Cyclone Jet Armstrong Cannon is currently busy supporting the sc2 scene.
Classic GosoO |sOs| Everyone has to give in, let Life win | Zest Is The Best | Roach Cultist | I recognize the might and wisdom of my Otherworldly overlord | Air vs Air 200/200 SC2 is best SC2 | PRIME has been robbed | Fuck prime go ST | ROACH ROACH ROACH
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19225 Posts
April 01 2015 16:29 GMT
#2626
Having a fun time so far, but lag is killing me in large battles. I don't have this problem in HoTS.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
April 01 2015 16:38 GMT
#2627
Damn I just got home and was like "well at least I can play Hots" but NOPE HotS ladder is offline WTF BLIZZARD

Anyone willing to give a desperate guy beta access? :D
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 01 2015 16:41 GMT
#2628
On April 02 2015 01:38 KeksX wrote:
Damn I just got home and was like "well at least I can play Hots" but NOPE HotS ladder is offline WTF BLIZZARD

Anyone willing to give a desperate guy beta access? :D

wait does that actually work? can a friend invite someone to either archon mode or ladder in the beta?
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
April 01 2015 16:46 GMT
#2629
On April 02 2015 01:41 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 01:38 KeksX wrote:
Damn I just got home and was like "well at least I can play Hots" but NOPE HotS ladder is offline WTF BLIZZARD

Anyone willing to give a desperate guy beta access? :D

wait does that actually work? can a friend invite someone to either archon mode or ladder in the beta?


Nah I wish that would work :/ Was just joking around. HotS ladder is broken atm so I can't even play that.
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 01 2015 16:58 GMT
#2630
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 16:59:55
April 01 2015 16:59 GMT
#2631
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 01 2015 17:04 GMT
#2632
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 01 2015 17:13 GMT
#2633
On April 02 2015 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)

Yeah I'm not a fan of massed spell casters for any race. Do people like games with mass infestors or ravens or whatever? Just makes it seem really bland to me and usually too strong
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Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
April 01 2015 17:13 GMT
#2634
lotv carriers restored naniwa's passion
rip passion
[PkF] Wire
Profile Joined March 2013
France24192 Posts
April 01 2015 17:14 GMT
#2635
On April 02 2015 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)

I agree. The use of mortar doesn't seem tactical at all...
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 01 2015 17:16 GMT
#2636
On April 02 2015 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)

I like the concept of the unit, but stats are pretty strange and need tweaking. Ravager is huge, probably the biggest unit Zerg has after Ultralisk and yet it has less HP than a Roach. It has almost same attack speed as Hydralisk and it has 16 damage, 6 range and it has very solid movement speed.
Even though they are maybe too big, I like that because the unit isn't supposed to be massable and that is probably the reason of their why they are that big but on the contrary they have made it into a super good fighting unit.

I really like the idea of having 4-8 Ravagers with your army of Roaches/Hydras/Lings to destroy Force Fields, zone out opponent's army, destroy Siege Tanks and bust some defense but right now people are just making Ravagers are Roaches and are doing more than fine with that, and that's pretty bad in my opinion.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
April 01 2015 17:28 GMT
#2637
On April 02 2015 02:13 Shellshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)

Yeah I'm not a fan of massed spell casters for any race. Do people like games with mass infestors or ravens or whatever? Just makes it seem really bland to me and usually too strong

Infestors and Ravens at least aren't units with autoattacks :D The Ravager combines both aspects though, which makes it even worse imo.

On April 02 2015 02:16 Ramiz1989 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 02:04 The_Red_Viper wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:59 KeksX wrote:
On April 02 2015 01:58 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Watching destiny again, ravagers man... ravagers...
That spell just is NEVER used to break forcefields, ravagers shoot over forcefields and the spell does good dmg vs protoss deathballs.
Way too spamable, mostly used for zoning/dmg , ravagers are massed.
Pretty much what i expected
It doesn't feel like a zerg unit at all


Yeah because massing units is something zergs never do


But yeah Ravager pretty good

I talk about the spell, not the massable aspect of the unit.
Simply put: I dislike the unit :D ("spellcaster" and army unit, meh)

I like the concept of the unit, but stats are pretty strange and need tweaking. Ravager is huge, probably the biggest unit Zerg has after Ultralisk and yet it has less HP than a Roach. It has almost same attack speed as Hydralisk and it has 16 damage, 6 range and it has very solid movement speed.
Even though they are maybe too big, I like that because the unit isn't supposed to be massable and that is probably the reason of their why they are that big but on the contrary they have made it into a super good fighting unit.

I really like the idea of having 4-8 Ravagers with your army of Roaches/Hydras/Lings to destroy Force Fields, zone out opponent's army, destroy Siege Tanks and bust some defense but right now people are just making Ravagers are Roaches and are doing more than fine with that, and that's pretty bad in my opinion.

Well i am excited that blizzard wants to give zerg an option to break forcefields, the current implementation is horrible though imo.
I would prefer it if the ravager could target forcefields with autoattacks tbh. (kinda like rocks)
I still wouldn't like that the ravager would be "a better roach" , but imo it would feel more like zerg at least^^
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 01 2015 18:02 GMT
#2638
Am I the only one who is wondering how many barracks a "two rax" will now feature? :D
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
April 01 2015 18:07 GMT
#2639
On April 02 2015 03:02 Big J wrote:
Am I the only one who is wondering how many barracks a "two rax" will now feature? :D

My guess is 3 or 4, lol.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3300 Posts
April 01 2015 18:15 GMT
#2640
There is now audio feedback when you push a button in LotV. I have always wanted this. BW has it, and the feedback just feels good.

Details matter in SC2. Blizzard needs to pay attention to more of these. This is a good start. Thank you.
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