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Who buffs KaiSa when there are a dozen other ADCs that could use it first?
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On May 28 2020 13:55 cLutZ wrote:
Who buffs KaiSa when there are a dozen other ADCs that could use it first?
Shocking, I know, especially providing the fact that Riot is worldwide known for unbiased and fair balancing xDD
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On May 28 2020 18:31 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2020 13:55 cLutZ wrote:
Who buffs KaiSa when there are a dozen other ADCs that could use it first? Shocking, I know, especially providing the fact that Riot is worldwide known for unbiased and fair balancing xDD
^ This Guy
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My single game sample size led me to believe new Voli is way too fucking tanky innately, and could keep up with my clear (Kayn) far too well while building exclusively tank
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On May 30 2020 08:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:
My single game sample size led me to believe new Voli is way too fucking tanky innately, and could keep up with my clear (Kayn) far too well while building exclusively tank
I think he's pretty good...but not OP. Some Korean Challenger players have been running Omnistone which is what I tried (also the first time I'd ever used that rune. Pretty hilarious.
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On May 30 2020 17:03 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2020 08:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:
My single game sample size led me to believe new Voli is way too fucking tanky innately, and could keep up with my clear (Kayn) far too well while building exclusively tank I think he's pretty good...but not OP. Some Korean Challenger players have been running Omnistone which is what I tried (also the first time I'd ever used that rune. Pretty hilarious.
This is just the level of optimization that top level Korean players go through. When a new Champion gets released Koreans will take Omnistone on the Champion every time. It is because they don’t know which one is the best yet, so they take the one that iterates through all other Keystones to figure out which one is the best in the fastest way. This is why Koreans are one level above the rest of the world.
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Can anyone tell me what streamer went rapidfire cannon bard? I've had way too many bard troll my existence with RFC first/second, I refuse to believe that's a coincidence
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On May 31 2020 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what streamer went rapidfire cannon bard? I've had way too many bard troll my existence with RFC first/second, I refuse to believe that's a coincidence
It's the high elo meta Bard build, guy called Lathyrus on EUW started popularizing it, but that was like 3 months ago at this point.
I've seen it a bunch in my games, seems pretty good.
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On May 31 2020 06:10 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2020 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what streamer went rapidfire cannon bard? I've had way too many bard troll my existence with RFC first/second, I refuse to believe that's a coincidence It's the high elo meta Bard build, guy called Lathyrus on EUW started popularizing it, but that was like 3 months ago at this point. I've seen it a bunch in my games, seems pretty good.
I believe it's even in "off meta" section of the Bard default build path that Riot gives players. No idea if it was updated recently to include it or whether it was always there.
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First/Second? u.gg has it as a potential 5th/6th item as far as I've seen. Instead I've been trolled by bards all day going the dumbest shit imaginable. Deadman's -> RFC, RFC -> Ludens, I'm sure there's been some more dumb shit.
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The weird Bard build is legit, Deadman's into RFC is really a build in high ELO. Bard is already an obnoxious roamer, and that build lets him run at people, slow them with no real answer back because he's a mile away, and sets up engages. He doesn't need to build AP because his passive is a big steroid. That said, Bard is incredibly hard to play, even in Challenger streams I see people begging their support to not play him. So many games where he does nothing but int, only a handful of people on EUW actually see constant success with him.
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On May 31 2020 13:02 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2020 06:10 Fildun wrote:On May 31 2020 00:31 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Can anyone tell me what streamer went rapidfire cannon bard? I've had way too many bard troll my existence with RFC first/second, I refuse to believe that's a coincidence It's the high elo meta Bard build, guy called Lathyrus on EUW started popularizing it, but that was like 3 months ago at this point. I've seen it a bunch in my games, seems pretty good. I believe it's even in "off meta" section of the Bard default build path that Riot gives players. No idea if it was updated recently to include it or whether it was always there.
That was updated recently yes, but yeah as other people said deadmans into RFC is the best meta build currently.
You used to get a hextech revolver with it as well, but I think most people phased that out in favor of just rushing Deadmans, since it's such a good first item on him.
Ludens is definitely trolling though.
Actually, I looked at the good Bard players and most go Deadmans into wits end these days with more defensive items after. RFC is still fine if you're fed though.
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The DMP build is one of those builds you really just have to try youself. It looks janky as hell but once you try it everything suddenly makes sense. Sort of like how 99% of the players dismissed Genja's Triforce Kog'Maw initially.
Unrelated: I'm starting to think toplane Amumu is lowkey OP. He beat all tanks and bruisers, some Juggernauts too. Mages slaughter him tho.
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On May 31 2020 22:28 Jek wrote:
Unrelated: I'm starting to think toplane Amumu is lowkey OP. He beat all tanks and bruisers, some Juggernauts too. Mages slaughter him tho.
So you are saying that Jax, morde, sett,ornn, kled, fiora will lose to amumu? sounds weird, but I ll be curious to see it
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Mummy is surprisingly good in longer trades because of his W synergy with passive. And his E reduces CD when hit by an AA, which I think includes minions, so in the early mid game you can proc it more than comparable abilities. I actually struggled to kill him as Morde on ARAM once lol, he was taking so little damage while burning through mine. His biggest downside is that most top picks can run circles around him and have bigger outplay potential.
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On May 31 2020 23:17 M2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2020 22:28 Jek wrote:
Unrelated: I'm starting to think toplane Amumu is lowkey OP. He beat all tanks and bruisers, some Juggernauts too. Mages slaughter him tho. So you are saying that Jax, morde, sett,ornn, kled, fiora will lose to amumu? sounds weird, but I ll be curious to see it
Against tanks I go Conqueror/Ravenous Hunter and just shred them with the and W and E spam. Auto attack based bruisers does negative damage once you have Tabis the damage reduction from your E (max) is down right silly. If you can bait a fight inside their minion wave nobody can outtrade you since E resets on minion attacks too and you just go URF on their ass.
Against autoattack bruisers you can honestly go whatever keystone you want, either I'm catching people out of their comfort zone with being toplane mummy but it's really that onesided lol. The only time I dont go Conqueror is against mages where I've had better succes with Predator and just make the enemy midlaner ragequit - burrowed it from my secret agent Malphite 007 special tactics move.
I ban Mordekaiser because fuck Mordekaiser, I assume it's a race to Guise+Abyssal and then I think neither of you should be able to kill each other before back up arrive for one of you. I haven't played against Fiora yet, but I guess you can just go Tabi+Bramble and be gucci. If you can sidestep Sett W it's a free lane.
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I've talked about amumu top a few patches ago. He loses to Mordekaiser imo (skill matchup but dodging his grab is difficult), you basically win againsy everything else.
I go abyssal/thorn/sunfire/liandries. It's so much fun, although you're a bit low on the cdr with it.
Also it's funny that minions don't damage you after a certain amount of points in E and you can recall with them hitting you. Also fighting in minion waves is favorable for you, like Jek said, which is a hilarious counter intuitive thing to experience for your opponent.
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Doesn't he go oom super fast from the E spam if you're against champs with sustain though?
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E is only 35 mana though, and his mana scaling is quite good (but bad starting amount). So you run out in the early game, but it becomes spammable quickly. The main feature is that his passive and E passive make trading fairly hard.
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