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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 16 2019 14:05 GMT
#121
Except it doesn't. It makes far more sense for Challenger to be below Master. Maybe it made sense on some level when the NA/EU Challenger Leagues existed, but even that is self defeating since there is still something above that.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
January 16 2019 15:26 GMT
#122
You need to be at least a grandmaser before you can be a challenger for the top spot, no?
Hence challenger trumps master and grandmaster!
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 16 2019 15:30 GMT
#123
but there is no top spot, challenger itself is the top spot
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
January 16 2019 17:06 GMT
#124
So the battle for rank 1 does not exist?
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 16 2019 18:14 GMT
#125
On January 17 2019 02:06 Uldridge wrote:
So the battle for rank 1 does not exist?

You're still Challenger. It makes more sense for Challengers to challenge the Masters for their spots and for the elites of the Masters to be Grand Masters
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
January 16 2019 18:29 GMT
#126
Let's agree to disagree then because I see it completely different.
The challenges are grandmasters that are so good they are able to challenge each other for the prestige of best player, aka rank 1. Hence they are challengers for the top spot.
Obviously someone that is low tier challenger coming in and out the tier will never be top dog, but it does signal that he's close.
While if you're grandmaster you're just completely adept at what you do, but you're not a challenger just yet.
Makes complete sense for me in this way. Would perhaps make even more sense if they only let the top 10 in ladder be challenger though.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 16 2019 18:47 GMT
#127
On January 17 2019 03:29 Uldridge wrote:
Let's agree to disagree then because I see it completely different.
The challenges are grandmasters that are so good they are able to challenge each other for the prestige of best player, aka rank 1. Hence they are challengers for the top spot.
Obviously someone that is low tier challenger coming in and out the tier will never be top dog, but it does signal that he's close.
While if you're grandmaster you're just completely adept at what you do, but you're not a challenger just yet.
Makes complete sense for me in this way. Would perhaps make even more sense if they only let the top 10 in ladder be challenger though.

Rank1 is still Challenger though, so what is the rank1 player challenging?
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
January 16 2019 18:55 GMT
#128
On January 17 2019 03:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2019 03:29 Uldridge wrote:
Let's agree to disagree then because I see it completely different.
The challenges are grandmasters that are so good they are able to challenge each other for the prestige of best player, aka rank 1. Hence they are challengers for the top spot.
Obviously someone that is low tier challenger coming in and out the tier will never be top dog, but it does signal that he's close.
While if you're grandmaster you're just completely adept at what you do, but you're not a challenger just yet.
Makes complete sense for me in this way. Would perhaps make even more sense if they only let the top 10 in ladder be challenger though.

Rank1 is still Challenger though, so what is the rank1 player challenging?


Common sense.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
January 16 2019 20:12 GMT
#129
LOL @ loSleb

@Gahlo
He's constantly being challenged, so obviously the challenged is still a challenger.
There should be a reward though for people being on top for x consecutive days or the guy who was rank 1 the longest.
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General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
January 16 2019 21:39 GMT
#130
Is anyone here following the twitch rivals event? Not the highest level of play by any means, but it seems like a fun event and most teams have a few challenger level players so the level of play is at least well above my own. Since it’s a twitch event most rounds are being streamed by all 10 players which is a pretty cool angle to be able to watch from.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
January 17 2019 04:15 GMT
#131
On January 17 2019 06:39 General_Winter wrote:
Is anyone here following the twitch rivals event? Not the highest level of play by any means, but it seems like a fun event and most teams have a few challenger level players so the level of play is at least well above my own. Since it’s a twitch event most rounds are being streamed by all 10 players which is a pretty cool angle to be able to watch from.


I followed it. It's a fun event. Riot's trying to build up hype for Clash, I guess. Hopefully it doesnt go boom like last year haha
Que Sera Sera
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4124 Posts
January 17 2019 08:30 GMT
#132
I'll always be hyped for Clash just cuz I really like tournaments. On the other hand, Clash going boom is tradition at this point and I'd hate for that tradition to go away.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 17 2019 11:21 GMT
#133
On January 17 2019 06:39 General_Winter wrote:
Is anyone here following the twitch rivals event? Not the highest level of play by any means, but it seems like a fun event and most teams have a few challenger level players so the level of play is at least well above my own. Since it’s a twitch event most rounds are being streamed by all 10 players which is a pretty cool angle to be able to watch from.

Yeah, I got heartbroken since one of my favorite streamers - Keegun lost without playing because one of his teammates Annie bot did not wake up for the event. Anyway, since Dekar (another favorite of mine) is not in the tourney, and xBlotter lost as well, I hold thumbs for foggedftw2 now
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4186 Posts
January 17 2019 19:27 GMT
#134
https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2019/01/dev-diary-position-ranks-explained/

When your business model is to change something all the time, just for the sake of changing things and you run out of idiotic ideas and come up with something spectacularly retarded
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
January 17 2019 20:07 GMT
#135
I don’t think the core idea for position ranks is that bad. I mean we will have to see how well riot implements it (I’m not super optimistic), but I support the idea of people not having to lose every game where their adc is auto filled.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-01-17 20:21:50
January 17 2019 20:17 GMT
#136
I just feel it makes ranking up on a highly prioritised lane like mid take way longer than it would normally? Also, OCE is a fucking small ass region so hopefully they realise how stupid it'd be to do in diamond+ since queue times will be so fucking long and you're going to have the most imbalanced games of all time.

Edit: ALso, what happens if your duo gets autofilled but you get your main??
Que Sera Sera
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
January 17 2019 21:48 GMT
#137
Last summer, we started testing positional matchmaking in Normal Draft to make sure it was ready for prime time


This may be the reason why I found the games so lopsided, implying this method sucks. When a D3 player offroles, do you think he is comparable to a Plat 1 player? Is this 'gap' considered the same as a P3 vs G1?

Honestly don't see this improving game play.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 17 2019 23:44 GMT
#138
I dont like it because I don't like roles at all. People should be forced to play whatever scraps there are if they are pick 4 & 5.
Freeeeeeedom
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8939 Posts
January 18 2019 02:58 GMT
#139
yeah getting rid of positions in matchmaking seems best for ranked overall.
i dont agree with the idea that you can call yourself a diamond player because youre good at your one trick but be gold for every other lane/champion.
what that should actually mean is youre a gold player who happens to be particularly good at one champion.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
January 18 2019 03:54 GMT
#140
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