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On January 12 2019 06:46 DarkCore wrote:
You don't have to go for a risky gank, and suicide for kills. But this is season 9, there are few wards on the map early game, there's a good chance you can walk into a lane without being caught by vision or at least not well in advance. Junglers don't just go around collecting kills, they also apply pressure. Bot lane matchups can be quite one sided these days, if one duo knows they're never getting ganked, then they push for free plates, collect dragon or the support roams.
Only focusing on one winning lane at the cost of other lanes losing is basically Russian roulette. If you camp one lane while having a presence on the rest of the map, it helps.
You think it's better for a jungler to stand around on wards so a behind lane can farm instead of taking the whole map next to a winning lane?
I'm not sure i agree with that unless you're like tristana and their team has no mobility. I may just hard be wrong, but... idk that feels gross and incredibly inefficient to me.
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On January 12 2019 05:06 dsyxelic wrote:
I prefer euw flame
NA players like to soft int or continuously harass people
rather someone just call me a bad word and move on
something off meta always gets a lot of flame regardless of how well you're doing
jungle/bot is annoying because jungler gets blamed for literally everything and bot you get blamed as a duo even if your lane partner is the one straight inting it
Almost everyone who actually plays or has played prefers flamers to inters. There was just a small contingent of sychophants that totally jumped on the "words totally matter" bandwagon when the first set of language policing was pushed.
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On January 12 2019 07:25 iCanada wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 06:46 DarkCore wrote:
You don't have to go for a risky gank, and suicide for kills. But this is season 9, there are few wards on the map early game, there's a good chance you can walk into a lane without being caught by vision or at least not well in advance. Junglers don't just go around collecting kills, they also apply pressure. Bot lane matchups can be quite one sided these days, if one duo knows they're never getting ganked, then they push for free plates, collect dragon or the support roams.
Only focusing on one winning lane at the cost of other lanes losing is basically Russian roulette. If you camp one lane while having a presence on the rest of the map, it helps. You think it's better for a jungler to stand around on wards so a behind lane can farm instead of taking the whole map next to a winning lane? I'm not sure i agree with that unless you're like tristana and their team has no mobility. I may just hard be wrong, but... idk that feels gross and incredibly inefficient to me.
- Jungler goes from golems/gromp into river to get the scuttler, enemy laners see him and back off. If they don't, decent chance of no ward, jungler stays a bit longer, just a few seconds or starts moving to the bot brush. The argument that the enemy might be setting up for a counter gank is a lame excuse: obviously if you have no idea where the enemy team is, you don't want to all in, but there are going to be situations where you do know where they are. These are the kinds of decisions that differentiate good junglers from bad ones.
I have also seen too many junglers try to 'force' a winning lane to snowball out of control when it isn't possible. Again, this means camping some lane at the cost of the other two.
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Right, but if i know their jungler on your side of the map and ive seen then react to me on a ward, ima path to the other side of the map and try to make a play with a higher percentage chance of success and a reward potentially better than "and we didn't hard lose the game yet, for now" and a risk lower than "whelp gg."
I think we're on the same page, just so often players yell unintelligible BS at their jungler simaliar to what they heard their favorite streamer says basically any time they're losing regardless of how the game is going. Ive had games where i literally had 3 successful ganks for every lane where someone has to move off the wave for three seconds and they spend the next 15 minutes moaning about jungler difference despite having more ganks, farm, experience and objective control than the other guy. Idk.
I'm not a big fan of these jungle nerfs. I think they're blind and inthe wrong direction. The problem isn't hundreds influence on lanes or their scaling.... its that the hard catchup xp makes it so you can hard influence and not be behind in xp. And these changes don't change that. Laners will be just as tilted next patch and junglers will be tilted too. Again... the best jungler in the game at the high level play right now can't even clear the jungle.
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On January 12 2019 07:45 JimmiC wrote:
The problem is people complain about "inters" when people are having a bad game, get camped or whatever. Having a system that bans people for bad games would be hella toxic as people would just avoid everyone to make sure they didn't hit whatever level not to mention peoples stress would go through the roof.
No one, not even rito thinks Words are worse. Just that words are very easy to police but the whiny, blame others for my loss mentality makes giving out bans for inting in any sort of automated way impossible and the cost of reviewing every report when I bet 95% or more are people griefing about someone on their team having a rough game or they perceive them to be bad would be hella expensive and at times subjective.
I mean, we can pretend that inting is hard to distinguish from being bad in a game, but I feel like my teammates have like 95% accuracy in identifying it in chat, because their flaming of inters is obvious. So, it just as easy to identify inters as flamers, simply based on language cues.
The problem is that Riot thinks that inting is a legitimate action once you have been slightly offended due to chat.
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Uuuh. New season stats are out, appearently I had 6 penta kills. Can only remember one of them.... oO
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On January 12 2019 06:46 DarkCore wrote:
You don't have to go for a risky gank, and suicide for kills. But this is season 9, there are few wards on the map early game, there's a good chance you can walk into a lane without being caught by vision or at least not well in advance. Junglers don't just go around collecting kills, they also apply pressure. Bot lane matchups can be quite one sided these days, if one duo knows they're never getting ganked, then they push for free plates, collect dragon or the support roams.
Only focusing on one winning lane at the cost of other lanes losing is basically Russian roulette. If you camp one lane while having a presence on the rest of the map, it helps.
applying pressure is a good meme
I suggest you try playing jungle and trying to gank behind bot lanes for a while and see if you change your perspective
often the reason people play like they aren't getting ganked is because any standard gank wouldn't be effective (ally bot lane too low to support without getting killed, enemy bot lane too ahead that they can kill you or run away with just a single ward for warning)
Even if you do some damage and burn a flash and heal or something, most likely the jungler has to base and the bot lane that got the gank didn't gain anything but a chance to base for free. Once both sides base the situation resets and jungler lost farm and possibly gave the other jungler a chance to get a 100% safe gank elsewhere or a rift herald or at least a farm advantage
Not too bad but if you try to do this 2-3 times and get maybe only 1 kill suddenly you've lost control of the rest of the map because the enemy jungler is ahead of you and possibly he managed to get some tower kills or ganks elsewhere
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On January 12 2019 19:48 Jek wrote:
Uuuh. New season stats are out, appearently I had 6 penta kills. Can only remember one of them.... oO
Apparently, it's bugged. Here's a link to it for those who want to check it out btw.
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Mine "Year in review" stats made me realize I spent more time playing champions I'm shit at than those I'm the best at.
Also noticed Riot included non-summoners rift games in "Your top 3 champion breakdown". That one says I played 46 Leblanc games, but my most played mid champion is Leblanc with only 26 games.
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On January 12 2019 06:46 DarkCore wrote:
You don't have to go for a risky gank, and suicide for kills. But this is season 9, there are few wards on the map early game, there's a good chance you can walk into a lane without being caught by vision or at least not well in advance. Junglers don't just go around collecting kills, they also apply pressure. Bot lane matchups can be quite one sided these days, if one duo knows they're never getting ganked, then they push for free plates, collect dragon or the support roams.
Only focusing on one winning lane at the cost of other lanes losing is basically Russian roulette. If you camp one lane while having a presence on the rest of the map, it helps.
To be honest if we're losing in botlane I'd rather be left alone by the jungler, chances are we will lose the 2v3 or in worst case their jungler is there for the countergank and we will all die. Focus on helping top/mid has a much higher chance to succeed and since the current top meta is mostly champions that easily snowball out of control if they get a lead on their lane opponent and the meta champs are legit carries now too.
Ganking the winning lanes is still making two champions (X+jungler) fed which compared to getting Jungler+ ADC + support even is really not that much of a bad a trade, unless the ADC is a super hard carry I would rather see the jungler and top/mid complete take over the game since they can much easier spread the lead than botlane.
On January 12 2019 22:32 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2019 19:48 Jek wrote:
Uuuh. New season stats are out, appearently I had 6 penta kills. Can only remember one of them.... oO Apparently, it's bugged. Here's a link to it for those who want to check it out btw.
It still list 6 pentas for me, guess I was on fire last season. On second thought I can remember two a full build Karthus (dont do Baron if there's a full build Karthus alive) and a mega fed Jax game where I won a 2v5 with our support.
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Hi Guys  ,
I recently decided to check out LoL again, someone somehow got access to my account, but I recently got it back. Playing is pretty hilarious, seeing a champ and being like "I wonder what their moves do" - and then getting blown up by like Pyke or something lol.
Good to see the forum is still kicking! Would like to play some with fellow TL guys - feel free to add me and we can play some time.
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On January 13 2019 05:42 LoCicero wrote:Hi Guys , I recently decided to check out LoL again, someone somehow got access to my account, but I recently got it back. Playing is pretty hilarious, seeing a champ and being like "I wonder what their moves do" - and then getting blown up by like Pyke or something lol. Good to see the forum is still kicking! Would like to play some with fellow TL guys - feel free to add me and we can play some time.
I'm rarely on NA but usually grind a bit during events and to get gold. Add me: AdsMoMonkey
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The forum is still kicking?
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On January 13 2019 06:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
The forum is still kicking?
Can't just let me have this one 
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Well, it still exists at least
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I mean that made Wave post, so obviously the forum's full of vitality and is gonna have a couple more blips on its activity chart and unique visitors for the month!
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Time to get the old band back together. Where's Req?
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how do alaric and gahlo have 20k+ posts on this site?
id understand if the post count was for the whole of teamliquid but to have that many on LL only is crazy.
i dont remember seeing people on LD with that many posts and LD is way more active, though to be fair i havent been on LD for ages so i dont really remember.
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