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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
Thought about Nidalee and Elise because they need full combos to be useful, but I can imagine situations where one Nida spear/heal or one Elise E could make a difference, while Kalista's ult will always do nothing. So to be worse than Kalista's ult you'd need something that would actively hurt Sylas. About the best ultimate: His gap closer isn't that good compared to Wukongs, so I'm not sure about that one. Something instant and long range like Malphite ult would be better I think. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + reducing jungle influence a bit (lower camp reward scaling, less damage from the Smite upgrades). Like... what?! That'll do the opposite of that they intend. Farming jungles are weak, have been since crab changes... so nerfs farming junglers more so the is even less risk from chain ganking. I'm sure that will stop all the chain ganking laners hate. Its not like making camps valuable again so that wasting time would put you far behind like before when jungle "had less influence" is hard. Literally for a year, Camille, who can't even clear the damn jungle, has been an S-tier pick. Better nerf farming junglers. I just... wtf?! Do they even play the game? If they want junglers to have less agency maybe make it so that if you path one side of your jungler to the other you dont have to dick around for a minute and a half to get your camps back up? Wtf else do they think junglers going to do? On January 10 2019 03:43 Sent. wrote: One more useless ult is Orianna's, Sylas doesn't have her ball after all. Thought about Nidalee and Elise because they need full combos to be useful, but I can imagine situations where one Nida spear/heal or one Elise E could make a difference, while Kalista's ult will always do nothing. So to be worse than Kalista's ult you'd need something that would actively hurt Sylas. About the best ultimate: His gap closer isn't that good compared to Wukongs, so I'm not sure about that one. Something instant and long range like Malphite ult would be better I think. I'd agree here. I don't think he gets human nidalee though? | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
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Jek
Denmark2771 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
My impression was that he gets to transform to the opposite of what he casted his ult on, that is if he casted it on cougar he changes into human and if he casted it on human he changes into cougar. What does he even do, does he actually transform? | ||
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Sent.
Poland9331 Posts
About Nidalee/Elise: Either the Rioter on reddit was wrong or you can only get the animal form. Nidalee & Elise, he can activate their ult on himself to get their alt form (cat/spider), until he re-activates ult and turns back into himself Karma & Heim he can activate their ult to get a single cast of one of THEIR QWE abilities Teemo & Corki he gets a full "load" of their ult (7 rockets for corki, 3 shrooms for Teemo) Zoe... he just jumps forward and back once edit - Jayce is like Nid/Elise, haven't looked at Udyr tbh, I'm a video producer not the designer. Hopefully Squad5, the designer can come in for more abilities. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 10 2019 05:07 DarkCore wrote: Think the idea of those changes are that champions that gank and farm well can gain big level leads if they do well (which isn't really true because muh catchup exp). However, these nerfs don't change much for those champs, smite is not the reason they clear quick What does he even do, does he actually transform? I mean... or just make it so if say Camille wastes her early game time ganking mid unsuccessfully and shyvana takes her whole blue side for a 9 camp clear they aren't equal on xp. Why wouldn't camille hard chain gank? She loses nothing if she is unsuccessful, and likely even tilts the lane that was pressured. If she is successful then she and her lane hard snowball. As an oldschool jungler, camille jungle being a thing blows my mind, and is perhaps an epitaph of an incredibly broken jungle. The jungle is so coinflippy right now, it's straight "not working as intended" busted. Literally if camille takes more than 2 camps without items shes at a quarter hp... she can't clear. She's slow and unhealthy in the jungle. But she has been an S tier pick for a year? Laners are frustrated at the hard tents being pitched, and i think it's understandable, because the jungle makes no sense right now. Legit i went up from plat 4 to plat 1 almost instantly by just prioritizing ganks over farm and forcing ganks. I'd be pissed too at the camp, and I'm kind of frustrated as it is because so much of years of pathing / farming is just right down the drain because it's literally less efficient than just flipping a coin and forcing dumb ganks. And the solution Riot has is essentially to just make farming worse? Idk, i feel like I'm playing pre jungle river alistar/eve ffs. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
I've always thought they need to add camps that are further from the lanes, and give the highest gold and exp. "Safe camps" for lack of a better description. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On January 10 2019 12:07 cLutZ wrote: I also don't get it. I've always thought they need to add camps that are further from the lanes, and give the highest gold and exp. "Safe camps" for lack of a better description. Third camp on each side where the current blast cone is next to the base gates. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On January 10 2019 12:48 AdsMoFro wrote: Third camp on each side where the current blast cone is next to the base gates. That is a pretty good spot. I do understand that it's always going to be a PITA to balance jungle so long as the camps do good damage. It is also kinda my dream to Ivern-ify the jungle in practice (although without his wierd gimmick) for one season just to see what happens. Overall I just think that they haven't done enough with the jungle seasons 3+. It has consistently been a problem position from my POV, and also RIOT themselves has always been talking about it being a problem. But they are very wimpy about actually making changes. I think the problem is because it is the position with the most variables at the early levels, which also is the time when the position is at the peak of it's power. That's a big issue as well. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On January 10 2019 14:40 cLutZ wrote: That is a pretty good spot. I do understand that it's always going to be a PITA to balance jungle so long as the camps do good damage. It is also kinda my dream to Ivern-ify the jungle in practice (although without his wierd gimmick) for one season just to see what happens. Overall I just think that they haven't done enough with the jungle seasons 3+. It has consistently been a problem position from my POV, and also RIOT themselves has always been talking about it being a problem. But they are very wimpy about actually making changes. I think the problem is because it is the position with the most variables at the early levels, which also is the time when the position is at the peak of it's power. That's a big issue as well. I mean Riot hates invading junglers and it hates farming junglers. So...that just leaves ganking junglers and Camille is the cancer of all ganking junglers. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On January 10 2019 22:05 Ansibled wrote: Isn't this the patch before Season 9? For ranked? Ranked starts on the 22nd so yeah technically but it's still 9.x 😁 | ||
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M2
Bulgaria4186 Posts
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On January 10 2019 23:59 M2 wrote: doesnt rank resets on 13th? According to this tweet it's the 23rd (not the 22nd), so unless they've changed that it should still be the same. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On January 11 2019 01:10 General_Winter wrote: For people with more experience how long should I wait after reset to start playing ranked this season? I assume the first week or so is probably a cluster fork as people who are reset to ranks and mmrs way below where they should be are all forced to smurf until they get back to where they belong. i usually wait a month or so | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
Hopefully I can speed run to diamond and not live the struggle life like last year. | ||
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