I'm not going to give away my role to autofilled players just because they're better than me at my chosen role. I'm playing for fun, I don't care whether I'll be 20 lp up or down after the game.

Slayer91

Ireland23460 Posts

January 19 2019 22:00 GMT

#202

Good point about swapping actually, riot most likely never thought of this.
I mean it's a ton of work to constantly check for a higher elo autofilled guy but still a valid point.

Of course this comes back to my point about people taking too many games to get to their "true elo" on their autofill roles. Having a 2200 MMR midlaner + autofille support won't make much difference from a 2300 MMR midlaner + autofill support in your example about swapping to let the higher elo guy get prio.

Jek

Denmark2771 Posts

January 20 2019 00:36 GMT

#203

I think you underestimate how big of a difference there can be between how good people play some roles. I sometimes queue support/fill and if I roll jungle I always dodge unless someone want to trade. I'm hardstuck plat 1 on my main and I have a jungle only account that ended just barely gold 5.

In the proposed system I'm personally going to always swap with an autofill if I'll end up on either my primary or secondary role. It's basically like getting someone who have lost a ton of games in a row and thus their MMR dropped immensely except they are not tilted.

On January 20 2019 06:46 Sent. wrote:
I'm not going to give away my role to autofilled players just because they're better than me at my chosen role. I'm playing for fun, I don't care whether I'll be 20 lp or down after the game.

Get out of ranked you filthy casual.

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

January 20 2019 12:53 GMT

#204

Nothing wrong with playing for fun, but if there's free chance to gain LP, I'll at least consider it. Doubt I'd give my role up much, but if some obvious smurf or high ranked player ended in my game because of this, I wouldn't mind playing my second or third roles. That's coming from someone who pretty much never gives up his role, because the old system seemed to punish me for it every time with a feeding bot lane.

I don’t know how well riot is going to handle this, but they have a huge data set to work with and I think that if they have even half decent algorithms designers they should be able to both anticipate and adjust for all the “exploits” you guys are discussing

Building a more sophisticated algorithm is not the answer to everything. Algorithms by design are supposed to make general statements about vast amounts of data, and are usually not good at dealing with fringe cases or patterns the developers never considered. Just look at all the dumb AI examples in the tech industry, like that Microsoft chatbot. League doesn't need some crazy machine learning or super complicated algos trying to analyse yze your play style to queue you up, I just want an algo that creates fast queues and only considers base MMR. Worst case is the new system makes sweeping general statements that are wrong, or interprets a person's behaviour as gaming the system when really it is just a statistical anomaly.

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

January 21 2019 00:47 GMT

#205

3 days until ranked resets!

What's everyone's goals for the new year?

Mine's to hit Masters at some point in the year and to also stop being a Rek/Elise 2-trick :D

AlterKot

Poland7525 Posts

January 21 2019 00:55 GMT

#206

I'm probably never getting diamond again so I guess I'll just take advantage of the positional queue system to flex about having every rank in plat as weak as that is.

Fildun

Netherlands4124 Posts

January 21 2019 03:17 GMT

#207

My goal is to onetrick Nunu support to either masters or gold, whichever one comes first.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8939 Posts

January 21 2019 06:06 GMT

#208

On January 21 2019 12:17 Fildun wrote:
My goal is to onetrick Nunu support to either masters or gold, whichever one comes first.

wat? is there some inside joke here

Fildun

Netherlands4124 Posts

January 21 2019 06:33 GMT

#209

I'm not sure what you're confused about.

evilfatsh1t

Australia8939 Posts

January 21 2019 09:56 GMT

#210

your goal is to hit masters OR gold, but theres no question that gold comes before masters?

unless youre implying that youre already in between masters and gold and your one trick nunu is either going to troll you down to gold or be so wonderfully successful that you get to masters? in which case im confused as to why youd set a goal to perhaps demote yourself a few ranks

AdsMoFro

Japan4761 Posts

January 21 2019 10:11 GMT

#211

On January 21 2019 18:56 evilfatsh1t wrote:
your goal is to hit masters OR gold, but theres no question that gold comes before masters?

unless youre implying that youre already in between masters and gold and your one trick nunu is either going to troll you down to gold or be so wonderfully successful that you get to masters? in which case im confused as to why youd set a goal to perhaps demote yourself a few ranks

issa joke

User was warned for this post

Fildun

Netherlands4124 Posts

January 21 2019 10:17 GMT

#212

It's not though. It only gets interesting once something happens, be it demotion or promotion. The journey is a goal in and of itself.

Also why can't we report admins for low-content posts.

Bulgaria4186 Posts

January 21 2019 10:39 GMT

#213

On January 21 2019 09:55 AlterKot wrote:
I'm probably never getting diamond again so I guess I'll just take advantage of the positional queue system to flex about having every rank in plat as weak as that is.

Season 8 was when I decided that I no longer will push myself to get to diamond and I'll start playing less and really casually. Now my account is level 76 and I finished the season in plat 3, however, my competitive side needs to put some targets for the game to be fun, so I might go with your plan too xDD
Thanks for the idea

loSleb

Austria1389 Posts

January 21 2019 11:16 GMT

#214

On January 21 2019 19:17 Fildun wrote:
It's not though. It only gets interesting once something happens, be it demotion or promotion. The journey is a goal in and of itself.

Also why can't we report admins for low-content posts.

It's even worse, I tried to report the whole site for low-content but thats not possible either.

Ansibled

United Kingdom9872 Posts

January 21 2019 13:23 GMT

#215

Surprisngly, Riot made a cinematic that doesn't look terrible.