EPT[Patch 8.11] Pyke General Discussion - Page 5
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Alaric
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DarkCore
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JimmiC
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2018 04:22 Alaric wrote: See if you're mentioning Hextech Singed you're looking at stuff too recent for my example, I'm talking old old Swain. And he had jack for AoE, it was mainly about catching somebody and trying to get them dead with your team, while your tankiness (partly due to Zhonya) made you an unappealing target, forcing people to try and kite to abuse your range instead. What version are you even talking about? He was released the the classic Slowing Q, Root W, DOT E, and AOE Drain R. At no point could he ever heal without attacking a target. | ||
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Ansibled
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Jan1997
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On June 06 2018 05:44 Ansibled wrote: EUW ranked down for like 12 hours lol Same, EUNE went down right now. | ||
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Alaric
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cLutZ
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Slusher
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It’s very high Regen like significantly faster than warmogs, or maybe it just looks like it because it kicks in instantly, not sure. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2018 07:52 Slusher wrote: The secondary passive is basically Tom kench grey health except where the % recovered is based on an ad ratio and the Regen requirement is being out of vision (w counts) It’s very high Regen like significantly faster than warmogs, or maybe it just looks like it because it kicks in instantly, not sure. Indeed, but how does any of that make Swain relevant? | ||
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Slusher
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On June 05 2018 21:13 Slayer91 wrote: pyke is the holy grail for autofilled supports who think playing an actual support is boring they used to pick blitz or bard or something a lot but this is another level im pretty happy if they pick blitz or bard its when i see the shitty autofill support lux i want to ff used to be nid support i fully support this champ riot made so that those players can be less shitty | ||
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Alaric
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nafta
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Jek
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On June 06 2018 08:40 nafta wrote: Ok so let me explain to you brainlets why pyke has a low win rate. This is an ASSASSIN that is played in a role which has players that have literally never played said type of character. That is literally it. The vast majority of support players are just so used to regular supports that his completely throws them off. How dare you make sense. This extends to the ADC too, playing with an assassin "support" is way different than playing with a support support. Hell, it extends to the entire team. Pyke makes the botlane an adc+assassin lane not adc+support lane. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
Playing him like an assassin you want to hook/stun/auto until you can execute. I do not think this is going to happen in the support role ever. Idk obviously we will see but he seems super bad bot lane unless he is facing people that are terrible anyway. | ||
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Slayer91
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i mean maybe literally everyone is under thinking this or maybe a few guys are overthinking it | ||
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dsyxelic
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 06 2018 10:51 Slayer91 wrote: or maybe pyke is just garbage because he's a melee assassin with little ability to scale with any items i mean maybe literally everyone is under thinking this or maybe a few guys are overthinking it This is kind of what I am thinking. Kill lanes are kinda historically bad. Maybe Pyke is different than Lee Sin support and Jarvan and Leblanc and Irelia and all the other gimmicky options, but maybe not. At least some of those are able to build to initiate to transition out of laning. Ironically (for me)*, Pyke might be an anti-assassination support. You pick Pyke into a soloQ team with Zed + Kha + Jax and then just camp your own ADC and CC/Execute the first one to come at you. Basically its a niche strat that probably isn't any better than just picking Janna and Kiting, but it might work. Then again, it would probably work for support Lee Sin too if all his HP was transformed into AD instead. *This is basically like the Olaf option someone once suggested for me that I scoffed at, where they said Olaf should not dive the backline, but just use his W/Ult to kill enemy divers. | ||
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Slusher
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