EPT[Patch 8.11] Pyke General Discussion - Page 7
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Slusher
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JimmiC
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Slusher
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On June 09 2018 00:16 Ansibled wrote: Why is everyone acting like the world is exploding and the game sucks lately? pretty much happens every big change "oh adcs are useless//too strong" "assassins are op/up" "hyper carry comps too good" "jungle bruiser good tanks useless" "jungle tanks op bruisers useless" "jungle sucks too much farming" "jungle sucks too much ganking can't play aggresively in lane" etcetc banner was stupid though didnt like basically having a giant damage soak to kill when you're trying to defend a siege | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
“Pyke - Looking at whether AD purchases are appropriately rewarded, or whether he's too skewed towards building tank/utility when played optimally (open question, not a firm statement)” Just gonna note that several days ago I said Pyke’s optimal build was tank and got a lot of (good natured) grief for it. Well now Rito is catching up to what was obvious to me after a few ARAM games. Not really that practical use to this remark, but half the fun of sticking your neck out with whacky opinions is getting to say “I told you so” on the occasions you turn out to be right. So consider it said.  | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
i think everyone was saying pyke was bad BECAUSE it was so hard to build tank losleb even posted the undefeated mid tank pyke screenshots lel | ||
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Slusher
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General_Winter
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On June 09 2018 05:27 General_Winter wrote: Going back on topic, what do people think about Zzrot as a banner replacement? While banner was an option, Zzrot was outclassed so there wasn’t much reason to build it. Once banner is gone, ZZrot is no longer completely outclassed so it gets compared to just not building an item. Sucks as a pushing item after the change. All it does it reverse the minion push and then is useless. Almost never is actually useful in pushing a tower down by itself because of its range. | ||
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cLutZ
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Slusher
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Frolossus
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On June 09 2018 00:16 Ansibled wrote: Why is everyone acting like the world is exploding and the game sucks lately? all adc or jg players | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 09 2018 05:26 Slusher wrote: I really hope Riot doesn’t cave and buff ads as a result of pros playing bruisers in solo q. I’d like to see how this plays out, and I also think a lot of posturing is going on. They should at the very least make zeal items cheaper and give 25% crit. You can't nerf the base stats of champions and make their items bad in the same patch. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8637 Posts
"job well done boys" | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
Aka the two roles that bitch the most. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
On June 09 2018 19:23 evilfatsh1t wrote: im genuinely interested in what riots balance teams reaction was to the adc nerfs and the current yasuo/morde/vlad bot meta. "job well done boys" They've been trying to remove the "you have to have an ADC" thing for a while now. Morde rework being the first obvious move towards this. They basically said, "yeah we want IE ADCs to be an option but not be mandatory." The issue is in my opinion, the only time morde was actually viable is when his numbers were disgustingly broken, and now when IE ADCs (With some exceptions) are completely useless in early/mid game. Basically, the game has to be designed explicitly to allow them to be played. Depends on your opinion on balance of changing the game so radically 7+ years into this meta that ADC players have become accustomed to it. Now with this change, maybe we have a shift in player base, where ADCs go play other roles (Kindred buffs could bring them back to the jg meta for e.g) and bruiser players move to bot lane. Basically, this is a Huni buff. Top lane is the AD role now  | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On June 09 2018 20:29 Numy wrote: Ez/Lucian/Kaisa and even Draven/Jihn all seem to be fine in yoloq. I can't play right now so is it really that bad or just usual massive overreaction? Like last year when Varus/Jihn were shitting on people yet ADCs whined so hard that they were irrelevant. All champs that don't focus on crit are fine. The only thing that is still kind of a problem for bruisers bot is junglers doing lvl 2 ganks. Because crab is a thing sadly. Ad+support is still the superior 2v2. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8637 Posts
On June 09 2018 19:31 AdsMoFro wrote: They've been trying to remove the "you have to have an ADC" thing for a while now. Morde rework being the first obvious move towards this. They basically said, "yeah we want IE ADCs to be an option but not be mandatory." The issue is in my opinion, the only time morde was actually viable is when his numbers were disgustingly broken, and now when IE ADCs (With some exceptions) are completely useless in early/mid game. Basically, the game has to be designed explicitly to allow them to be played. Depends on your opinion on balance of changing the game so radically 7+ years into this meta that ADC players have become accustomed to it. Now with this change, maybe we have a shift in player base, where ADCs go play other roles (Kindred buffs could bring them back to the jg meta for e.g) and bruiser players move to bot lane. Basically, this is a Huni buff. Top lane is the AD role now well im an ex dota player so i dont care about lane assignments. dota has it right where lane positions/roles etc are very fluid. the only issue with lol is that no adc at bot lane usually means adcs are just shit in general and cant go to any lane. this is a balance failure rather than success | ||
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