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[Patch 8.11] Pyke General Discussion

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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-12 21:44:17
May 30 2018 19:07 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

Non-League of Legends discussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

Certain topics are blacklisted from LoL General Discussion and they include:
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Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

Pyke will be released this patch. To find out more about him, check here!

Patch 8.11: Live on May. 31st, 2018

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Patch 8.10 Jungle Changes Discussion
Patch 8.9 Mage Item Adjustments
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-06-01 19:57:04
May 30 2018 19:17 GMT
#2
70% damage reduction on minions from the new banner of command is probably not enough. I get that 100% magic damage reduction was problematic but wish they kept it higher than 70%.

edit: guess I was wrong again
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 30 2018 20:49 GMT
#3
Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.

Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.

Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 30 2018 23:38 GMT
#4
I was kinda hoping for a Zoe nerf because I've gotten really bored of playing her.
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
May 31 2018 00:07 GMT
#5
Lol, did they really change Vayne’s base health from 598 to 515? That has to be a typo right?
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
May 31 2018 00:50 GMT
#6
On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote:
Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.

Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.

Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?


Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-31 02:53:30
May 31 2018 02:47 GMT
#7
On May 31 2018 09:07 ghrur wrote:
Lol, did they really change Vayne’s base health from 598 to 515? That has to be a typo right?


I think it's supposed to be 615, adcs had their armor nerfed and the health buffed by an equal gold amount as a uniform change.

Pyke's passive not allowing him to build health is going to make support LB a hilarious counter especially when he's in his experimental phase.
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NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 31 2018 04:45 GMT
#8
On May 31 2018 09:50 Ethelis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote:
Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.

Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.

Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?


Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER.

Why would kog build essence reaver? There is a 30 second cooldown on the new essence flare passive. If kog wants to keep it for a teamfight, that means he can't use R to clear waves or jungle camps.
If it doesn't hurt her damage too much, sivir should still consider it. She can use the mana, her spells had a lot of damage and she uses her ult at the start of teamfights.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
May 31 2018 05:03 GMT
#9
I predict Pyke to get destroyed in the laning phase versus real kill lanes. No health itemization just sounds really gimmicky, as if they ran out of ideas for new abilities.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jan1997
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
Norway671 Posts
May 31 2018 05:03 GMT
#10
Only thing that stood out to me as weird is the baron damage decrease. Are they a bit, perhaps... indecisive?
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 31 2018 05:10 GMT
#11
Everyone one says it’s so good but the flare being tied to ult seems very clunky and will definitely influence what characters can even use it.

I really just don’t like the item that n paper much at all it only lasts 8 seconds I’d take 30% cdr permenant any day of the week . The only advantage I can see is mana return on 1 item . I get that this patch is an adc nerf patch but I don’t get the hype with this item.
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Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
May 31 2018 05:44 GMT
#12
On May 31 2018 13:45 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2018 09:50 Ethelis wrote:
On May 31 2018 05:49 DarkCore wrote:
Bird buffs, Froggen is going to be happy.

Idk if those Kha changes are actually nerfs, having 3 stealths is incredibly strong. They essentially removed bush stealth for considerably longer duration.

Those IE changes, how exactly do they work with Yasuo passive. If he has 25% crit, does he have 50/75/100%? And why did they remove crit from Essence Reaver, who's going to buy it now? Varus?


Koggles is the 1st that comes to mind for the new ER.

Why would kog build essence reaver? There is a 30 second cooldown on the new essence flare passive. If kog wants to keep it for a teamfight, that means he can't use R to clear waves or jungle camps.
If it doesn't hurt her damage too much, sivir should still consider it. She can use the mana, her spells had a lot of damage and she uses her ult at the start of teamfights.


I imagine if it becomes overtuned he would wreck in skirmishes.
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
May 31 2018 09:33 GMT
#13
Not an ADC, but the new essence reaver could be really strong on Jax. Get the attack speed up with his passive; then pop R, ready E and Q into a fight. With Jax doing almost 2 attacks per second and each attack reducing 40% remaining cooldown he would practically have his E back up moments after it went off. W would be practically every other or every third attack. And his in fight mobility with q coming back up would be bonkers.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
May 31 2018 10:41 GMT
#14
how is no one thinking of ez with essence reaver.
hes gonna have like 2 second q's and 4 second e's
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 31 2018 10:52 GMT
#15
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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8637 Posts
May 31 2018 11:47 GMT
#16
lucian also is busted with essence reaver
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35131 Posts
May 31 2018 12:40 GMT
#17
I remember people on the Riven subreddit were kinda excited about new ER for a bit, then the new fighter items got revealed.
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
May 31 2018 12:46 GMT
#18
On May 31 2018 19:41 evilfatsh1t wrote:
how is no one thinking of ez with essence reaver.
hes gonna have like 2 second q's and 4 second e's

But he already had that.

I think new essence reaver is highly overvalued. On Ez it doesnt fit in the build path plus the 20% missing CD doesn't really affect him on his Q.
I tried it on Lucian and it didn't feel as good as I was expecting. Most fights my starting DPS was higher if i didnt use ult, so i chose that option instead, plus most of the fights were already over by the time the effect kicked in.
Apart from those 2, who really uses it? All I could think of was MF, Ashe and Sivir, but for the last 2 it delays getting crit and with MF the fights are usually over once her ult finishes anyway.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 31 2018 13:17 GMT
#19
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 31 2018 14:16 GMT
#20
It would be good on Lucian if it was an active item. I really hate it being tied to ult.
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