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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-07 22:49:50
November 07 2017 22:13 GMT
#41
her numbers/ult cd are outrageous. Pretty much her only weakness is waveclear. She is basically a ranged kassadin in some ways.

I find that no damage ults usually turn out as bad design in riot's case, they have a really hard time balancing those kind of champs. It means you have to frontload their basic abilities.

Kassadin/Old AP nid hybrid lol
I come in for the scraps
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 07 2017 22:34 GMT
#42
Is she supposed to be a poke champ when balanced?
Freeeeeeedom
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
November 07 2017 22:49 GMT
#43
the thing is she seems to have waveclear too

i saw a 2 item zoe 1 shot a full minion wave with the q


i dont even know what shes supposed to be

she has this weird pattern like old leblanc (q, blink in, shoot the q, blink back) for poke and is one of the most slippery champs in the game.

idk she felt like a old lb/ahri mix to me
TL/SKT
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
November 08 2017 00:51 GMT
#44
am i reading this right where you get a 1 time use zhonyas for 600 gold?
bye zeds, talons etc.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35149 Posts
November 08 2017 00:53 GMT
#45
On November 08 2017 09:51 evilfatsh1t wrote:
am i reading this right where you get a 1 time use zhonyas for 600 gold?
bye zeds, talons etc.

Yes, but you can only use it once. After you use it, the shopkeeper will only sell you broken ones.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
November 08 2017 01:03 GMT
#46
well once is all you need to pretty heavily screw over a champion like zed
how shit is it that you can shove lanes as much as you want knowing that after your first back youve got an item which makes you completely unkillable against zed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35149 Posts
November 08 2017 01:30 GMT
#47
On November 08 2017 10:03 evilfatsh1t wrote:
well once is all you need to pretty heavily screw over a champion like zed
how shit is it that you can shove lanes as much as you want knowing that after your first back youve got an item which makes you completely unkillable against zed.

You spend 600g and all it does is protect you from 1 allin - at best.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 03:26:05
November 08 2017 03:24 GMT
#48
yeah but the 600g is required for a full zhonyas anyway and you stop the champion that REQUIRES kills from all-ins from getting his first item boost. by the time he has his next ulti up youve done more around the map than he has all because you bought a 600g item that let you do whatever you wanted without worry.

previously you had to spend either 1.1k on tabis or 1.2k on seekers so that you could MAYBE survive an all in. surviving was still probably dependent on a nice dodge or a summoner spell.
now for half that price you can make any mistake you want and keep all your spells for guaranteed survival. how is that not a problem for balance?
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2333 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 03:36:21
November 08 2017 03:35 GMT
#49
On November 08 2017 12:24 evilfatsh1t wrote:
yeah but the 600g is required for a full zhonyas anyway and you stop the champion that REQUIRES kills from all-ins from getting his first item boost. by the time he has his next ulti up youve done more around the map than he has all because you bought a 600g item that let you do whatever you wanted without worry.

previously you had to spend either 1.1k on tabis or 1.2k on seekers so that you could MAYBE survive an all in. surviving was still probably dependent on a nice dodge or a summoner spell.
now for half that price you can make any mistake you want and keep all your spells for guaranteed survival. how is that not a problem for balance?


Get a gank? Wait 2 mins? Maybe roam and kill someone else? The possibilities are endless!

Edit: 600G for no stats is also a pretty poor investment.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 03:56:51
November 08 2017 03:56 GMT
#50
no it isnt....for arguments sake lets say its zed youre against.
the zed requires his own jungle to babysit him so that he can force summs or get a successful gank even with the stopwatch. you buy so much time and space for your own team by attracting their jungle to a lane that needs to snowball. otherwise youre just gonna shove zeds lane in and force him to abandon his tower to roam or just trade farm with you, both of which are not worth for him.
these scenarios dont even take into account what your own jungle is doing in the meantime. its a stupid item for a price cheap enough to autowin you the lane pretty much.
if you die to the zed solo 2 mins later when your stopwatch is down but your summs are up and he has no kils, then thats an issue of you just fucking up rather than stopwatch being an item that can easily be played around
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 08 2017 04:06 GMT
#51
Zed and talon were massively buffed by the new runes, you don't want to underestimate them, especially talon
I come in for the scraps
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
November 08 2017 06:40 GMT
#52
really happy the stopwatch option exists for the zed matchup.
armguard and tabi just couldn't compete with hexdrinker at all
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 08 2017 06:57 GMT
#53
I mean, maybe new runes make Zed op, but worrying about Zed matchups has been a strange thing for quite some time.
Freeeeeeedom
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 08 2017 09:20 GMT
#54
This epic skin reward.... I already had 3 out of the 5 I got, couldn't they at least have made sure you couldn't get something you already owned wtf?
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 10:18:59
November 08 2017 10:17 GMT
#55
On November 08 2017 18:20 Jek wrote:
This epic skin reward.... I already had 3 out of the 5 I got, couldn't they at least have made sure you couldn't get something you already owned wtf?

What epic skin reward?

Just tried out Kayn since now I have BE to buy him. Pretty fun dude. Went Red guy since I suck as squishies and being this ultra healing teamfighter is fun. What kind of runes do you guys think goes well with him? I went resolve/bursty thing but I think that was overkill with grasp.

Also what's up with this quest for a weird icon? I don't remember reading about that.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35149 Posts
November 08 2017 10:26 GMT
#56
On November 08 2017 19:17 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2017 18:20 Jek wrote:
This epic skin reward.... I already had 3 out of the 5 I got, couldn't they at least have made sure you couldn't get something you already owned wtf?

What epic skin reward?

Just tried out Kayn since now I have BE to buy him. Pretty fun dude. Went Red guy since I suck as squishies and being this ultra healing teamfighter is fun. What kind of runes do you guys think goes well with him? I went resolve/bursty thing but I think that was overkill with grasp.

Also what's up with this quest for a weird icon? I don't remember reading about that.

If you bought rune pages with RP you got 1 epic(1350RP) skin per 4 pages you bought that way, rounded up.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 12:18:33
November 08 2017 12:18 GMT
#57
It's so weird playing with these new runes. Everything just deals so much fucking damage. Legitimately got 100-0d instantly by kog/lulu at lvl 3 as janna.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 08 2017 12:48 GMT
#58
didnt get viktorious graves on any of my accounts yet, is it for everybody or just me cuz of rank 1 honor :D
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35149 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-08 13:00:12
November 08 2017 12:58 GMT
#59
On November 08 2017 21:48 kongoline wrote:
didnt get viktorious graves on any of my accounts yet, is it for everybody or just me cuz of rank 1 honor :D

It's for gold+, has nothing to do with honor.

In the past there's been a period of time before they skin gets out to everybody.

Dat 47.5k refund.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
November 08 2017 13:02 GMT
#60
^ neither of my accounts decayed lower than gold, guess theres also option i need to play 1 game first just noticed some of the rewards (like the rune pages one) are tied to missions -.-
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