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[Patch 7.22] Runes Reforged General Discussion

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 06 2017 19:32 GMT
#1
Welcome to this patch's General Discussion thread for the League of Legends subforum. This thread is for discussion around League of Legends. Free feel to talk about anything LoL related here that does not already have its own thread.

Non-League of Legends discussion should go in the LiquidLegends Lounge.

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Additionally, the TL LoL Ten Commandments are available for you to reference if you have any questions about this subforum.

Use the LoL Strategy subforum if you have game or champion specific questions. Lastly, confine QQing and bragging to their respective threads.

There is no new champion this patch.

Patch 7.22: Live on Nov. 7th, 2017

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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 06 2017 20:05 GMT
#2
Really looking forward to this rune stuff. Will be fun to watch people finding all the broken stuff.

Hopefully they will be able to get them to a point where actually more than 1 skill path is viable on a champ. Usually games fail at that but we will see.
Off-season = best season
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 20:12:50
November 06 2017 20:12 GMT
#3
On November 07 2017 05:05 Redox wrote:
Really looking forward to this rune stuff. Will be fun to watch people finding all the broken stuff.

Hopefully they will be able to get them to a point where actually more than 1 skill path is viable on a champ. Usually games fail at that but we will see.

Given that they split it to... 5(6?idr) different paths, I wouldn't be surprised to see the minor trees changed a bunch. I could also see champs like Jarvan have different major trees for the bruiser and AD builds.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
November 06 2017 20:44 GMT
#4
Is Zoe's "sleep" a stun or a root or a suppression?
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 06 2017 20:51 GMT
#5
Looks like a stun
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 06 2017 20:57 GMT
#6
Zoe's ult is probably on a low cooldown so think of it as Kass ult that doesn't deal damage and automatically brings you back to starting point a la Leblanc.
Mainly to set up harass or initiate ganks or scout or juke or artificially increase the range to redirect her q to (from the clip she can only redirect to a point around her, since they used Ghost to make her travel more ground before redirecting?).
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 21:12:29
November 06 2017 21:03 GMT
#7
On November 07 2017 05:44 cLutZ wrote:
Is Zoe's "sleep" a stun or a root or a suppression?


I think it's neither? they bolded drowsy so it might be in its own category
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 06 2017 21:05 GMT
#8
On November 07 2017 06:03 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 05:44 cLutZ wrote:
Is Zoe's "sleep" a stun or a root or a suppression?


I think it's neither? they bolded it drowsy so it might be in its own category

Drowsy is what happens before the sleep though.
Off-season = best season
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 21:06:24
November 06 2017 21:05 GMT
#9
Zoe looks fun.
On November 07 2017 05:57 Alaric wrote:
Zoe's ult is probably on a low cooldown so think of it as Kass ult that doesn't deal damage and automatically brings you back to starting point a la Leblanc.
Mainly to set up harass or initiate ganks or scout or juke or artificially increase the range to redirect her q to (from the clip she can only redirect to a point around her, since they used Ghost to make her travel more ground before redirecting?).
It's 10/8/6s
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 06 2017 21:06 GMT
#10
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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 21:43:12
November 06 2017 21:39 GMT
#11
Is there a replacement for fervor? The extra attack speed isn't bad but it doesn't seem as good on Ezreal compared to other ADCs.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 21:57:41
November 06 2017 21:57 GMT
#12
On November 07 2017 06:05 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 06:03 Sent. wrote:
On November 07 2017 05:44 cLutZ wrote:
Is Zoe's "sleep" a stun or a root or a suppression?


I think it's neither? they bolded it drowsy so it might be in its own category

Drowsy is what happens before the sleep though.


Yea, Im not sure. It looks, from the extremely short video on the site that "Drowsy" is a slow and "Sleep" is a stun. One of the times they should have released on of those 6 min Phreak hype videos.
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 22:11:51
November 06 2017 22:11 GMT
#13
On November 07 2017 05:12 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2017 05:05 Redox wrote:
Really looking forward to this rune stuff. Will be fun to watch people finding all the broken stuff.

Hopefully they will be able to get them to a point where actually more than 1 skill path is viable on a champ. Usually games fail at that but we will see.

Given that they split it to... 5(6?idr) different paths, I wouldn't be surprised to see the minor trees changed a bunch. I could also see champs like Jarvan have different major trees for the bruiser and AD builds.

I think this is the big thing people will need to adapt to - changing runes based on the teamcomps, even if you are playing the same champ. You could totally, for example, take the basic-attack-slow keystone on Ezreal, or go with one of the DPS options.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 06 2017 22:37 GMT
#14
Glacial Augment Ezreal sounds like a lot of fun, I'm just a bit worried that you give up too much for takign it.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
November 06 2017 22:38 GMT
#15
We'll have to see. But honestly, there used to be an entire build based around Ezreal getting this effect in mid-game; now you can have it at level 1!
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-06 22:44:15
November 06 2017 22:43 GMT
#16
For what I understand we can no longer adjust our stats match up or team comp dependent, meaning like full armor or mr pages or attack speed and whatever, there is some kind of customization but its not comparable with what we have now? Again, I mean only stats wise
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Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4122 Posts
November 06 2017 22:45 GMT
#17
For a second I forgot how dumb end-of-season 3v3s are, but this leaves EUW challenger in the dust in terms of toxicity.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
November 06 2017 22:56 GMT
#18
I think it's flippin' hilarious that Nunu in 3s has a 29% winrate with RoA first item, and 60% winrate with FotM as first item.
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
November 06 2017 22:56 GMT
#19
Watching Ads playing Ezreal with glacial and this actually looks super fun, viablitiy aside. It also seems strong, I'm hyped to try it out.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 06 2017 23:09 GMT
#20
Ezreal flair when?
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