• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:09
CEST 18:09
KST 01:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced53BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? BW General Discussion Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 772 users

[Patch 7.22] Runes Reforged General Discussion - Page 13

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
November 15 2017 08:20 GMT
#241
On November 15 2017 09:52 Frolossus wrote:
aery nerfs already on pbe


Yay, that rune is seriously pretty dumb. Dunno why Riot thought it would be a good idea to create an easier to proc Thunderlords that also has perks for shields.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 08:31:00
November 15 2017 08:30 GMT
#242
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 12:47:36
November 15 2017 11:46 GMT
#243
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

But again, you're focusing too much on the now. The framework for Dark Harvest is there, but it isn't gonna get help until other, more abusive shit, like Aery gets nerfed.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
November 15 2017 18:17 GMT
#244
I keep playing Eve once in a while. I'm still far from being good at her, buy my opinion of her is slowly getting better. Used to consider her garbage, but now I think she's a great pubstomper and maybe even good enough for solo rankeds.

Some of her abilities are really counter-intuitive for the new Eve players which makes her winrate worse than it should be.

Sidenote: New Eve and Urgot voiceovers are good ideas executed poorly. Eve is too evil and Urgot doesn't sound like Bane at all.
You're now breathing manually
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
November 15 2017 18:24 GMT
#245
Any tips? I like her for... reasons.. but struggle to play her.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
November 15 2017 19:05 GMT
#246
Sorry, don't have any strong opinions on what's good or bad on her now. So far I had the most success building protobelt into full glasscannon (so no "bruiser" stuff like zhonyas) and maxing Q>E>W, but I consider myself garbage at Eve. Playing her mostly because I'm trying to have fun in normal drafts.

The only tip I could think of is that people never expect ganks from behind, they always assume you'll flank them.
You're now breathing manually
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 15 2017 20:07 GMT
#247
Makes sense eve had tools to get the jump, her problem was her burst was too low so they survived and killed you. Now that everyone one shots everyone the stealth is a huge advantage.
Carrilord has arrived.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 15 2017 21:04 GMT
#248
On November 16 2017 03:17 Sent. wrote:
I keep playing Eve once in a while. I'm still far from being good at her, buy my opinion of her is slowly getting better. Used to consider her garbage, but now I think she's a great pubstomper and maybe even good enough for solo rankeds.

Some of her abilities are really counter-intuitive for the new Eve players which makes her winrate worse than it should be.

Sidenote: New Eve and Urgot voiceovers are good ideas executed poorly. Eve is too evil and Urgot doesn't sound like Bane at all.

Use the french VA for Eve. Thank me later.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-15 21:56:27
November 15 2017 21:55 GMT
#249
On November 16 2017 03:17 Sent. wrote:
I keep playing Eve once in a while. I'm still far from being good at her, buy my opinion of her is slowly getting better. Used to consider her garbage, but now I think she's a great pubstomper and maybe even good enough for solo rankeds.

Some of her abilities are really counter-intuitive for the new Eve players which makes her winrate worse than it should be.

Sidenote: New Eve and Urgot voiceovers are good ideas executed poorly. Eve is too evil and Urgot doesn't sound like Bane at all.


First time I listened to New Eve VO I didn't know what to think, it is really over the top in the evil department. It also has that the wearing skin line which kinda disturbed me. Not that I haven't heard worse, but I thought this imagery from Silence of the Lambs was kind of weird in this otherwise cartoony video game.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
November 15 2017 22:17 GMT
#250
On November 16 2017 06:04 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 03:17 Sent. wrote:
I keep playing Eve once in a while. I'm still far from being good at her, buy my opinion of her is slowly getting better. Used to consider her garbage, but now I think she's a great pubstomper and maybe even good enough for solo rankeds.

Some of her abilities are really counter-intuitive for the new Eve players which makes her winrate worse than it should be.

Sidenote: New Eve and Urgot voiceovers are good ideas executed poorly. Eve is too evil and Urgot doesn't sound like Bane at all.

Use the french VA for Eve. Thank me later.


How do you do that? Change the language for the VA?
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
November 16 2017 00:37 GMT
#251
On November 15 2017 20:46 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

Are you talking about pbe? Live Aery is adaptive damage.

Actually died on kassadin to it because it went through my spell shield :p
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 16 2017 03:56 GMT
#252
From Meddler's 11/15 gameplay notes

"After the patch went out last week we saw average game times in ranked SR drop by about a minute, which is meaningful. Looking into it we realized patch 7.22 had also introduced a bug into match making where higher MMR players were being stacked on one team inappropriately. "

This explains Dyslexic's friend but not my mid laner
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
November 16 2017 04:16 GMT
#253
On November 16 2017 09:37 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 15 2017 20:46 Gahlo wrote:
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

Are you talking about pbe? Live Aery is adaptive damage.

Actually died on kassadin to it because it went through my spell shield :p

Just tested Aery on live. Riven with 89AD, 0AP, and a Longsword in inventory. Aery was magic damage.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 04:31:18
November 16 2017 04:31 GMT
#254
On November 16 2017 12:56 Slusher wrote:
From Meddler's 11/15 gameplay notes

"After the patch went out last week we saw average game times in ranked SR drop by about a minute, which is meaningful. Looking into it we realized patch 7.22 had also introduced a bug into match making where higher MMR players were being stacked on one team inappropriately. "

This explains Dyslexic's friend but not my mid laner


isn't that for ranked SR? since he said the game times dropped in ranked SR

my friends game was normals
TL/SKT
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
November 16 2017 04:50 GMT
#255
I think statistically he's talking about ranked but the bug is match making in general? Idk I guess it doesn't matter
Carrilord has arrived.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
November 16 2017 06:23 GMT
#256
On November 16 2017 13:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 09:37 killerdog wrote:
On November 15 2017 20:46 Gahlo wrote:
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

Are you talking about pbe? Live Aery is adaptive damage.

Actually died on kassadin to it because it went through my spell shield :p

Just tested Aery on live. Riven with 89AD, 0AP, and a Longsword in inventory. Aery was magic damage.

So? You don't tell us items and who you're hitting. After a few levels every champions has more base armour than base MR so unless they itemize for MR or you itemize for arpen the adaptive damage will be magical.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
November 16 2017 08:47 GMT
#257
On November 16 2017 07:17 General_Winter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 06:04 Jek wrote:
On November 16 2017 03:17 Sent. wrote:
I keep playing Eve once in a while. I'm still far from being good at her, buy my opinion of her is slowly getting better. Used to consider her garbage, but now I think she's a great pubstomper and maybe even good enough for solo rankeds.

Some of her abilities are really counter-intuitive for the new Eve players which makes her winrate worse than it should be.

Sidenote: New Eve and Urgot voiceovers are good ideas executed poorly. Eve is too evil and Urgot doesn't sound like Bane at all.

Use the french VA for Eve. Thank me later.


How do you do that? Change the language for the VA?

https://lexwah.com/lvoc/

It's a bit of a hassle. But for korean Lulu I'll walk through fire and ice.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
November 16 2017 09:05 GMT
#258
can you choose a different VA for each champion¿?
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
November 16 2017 11:07 GMT
#259
On November 16 2017 15:23 NpG)Explosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 13:16 Gahlo wrote:
On November 16 2017 09:37 killerdog wrote:
On November 15 2017 20:46 Gahlo wrote:
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

Are you talking about pbe? Live Aery is adaptive damage.

Actually died on kassadin to it because it went through my spell shield :p

Just tested Aery on live. Riven with 89AD, 0AP, and a Longsword in inventory. Aery was magic damage.

So? You don't tell us items and who you're hitting. After a few levels every champions has more base armour than base MR so unless they itemize for MR or you itemize for arpen the adaptive damage will be magical.

One would think champions that want to build AD would go down the ArPen route sooner or later.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-11-16 12:14:58
November 16 2017 11:58 GMT
#260
On November 16 2017 13:16 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2017 09:37 killerdog wrote:
On November 15 2017 20:46 Gahlo wrote:
On November 15 2017 17:30 PrinceXizor wrote:
On November 15 2017 06:05 Gahlo wrote:
I'm not comparing anything to Aery, that shit's gonna get nerfed.

Aery is more than twice as good though. its obviously being nerfed, but even at half effectiveness of aery Dark Harvest just doesnt DO much for you in comparison unless games go super long.

So i guess it might work in a slow meta (40min+), or if you are stalling real hard and playing stuff like Nasus or something and the building damage is an extra draw? Just feels like it's never going to be the choice unless it gets buffed in some way.

Aery is strictly magic damage while Dark Harvest is adaptive, so Aery scales way worse on champions that don't buy magic pen.

Are you talking about pbe? Live Aery is adaptive damage.

Actually died on kassadin to it because it went through my spell shield :p

Just tested Aery on live. Riven with 89AD, 0AP, and a Longsword in inventory. Aery was magic damage.

It sometimes does physical, not sure if it does the opposite of your primary, or if it picks the one that does the most in a situation, but it's not always magic.

edit: doing an actual proper test against target dummy. 100armour 100mr.

Leblanc lvl 1: aery
no items = physical damage
sorc boots + void staff = physical damage
6 longswords = magic damage
last whisper = magic damage

It's adaptive, dealing damage in your non primary by the looks of it.
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV European League
16:00
Playoffs Day 3
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
WardiTV345
IndyStarCraft 26
LiquipediaDiscussion
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Playoff - Day 2/2 - Final
Mihu vs FengziLIVE!
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
ZZZero.O326
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .275
SpeCial 187
mcanning 132
ProTech51
ForJumy 39
MindelVK 32
BRAT_OK 31
IndyStarCraft 20
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5512
Stork 930
Horang2 879
Mini 737
Hyuk 558
ggaemo 358
ZZZero.O 317
firebathero 286
Mong 264
hero 197
[ Show more ]
Larva 154
Leta 105
ToSsGirL 72
Zeus 68
Terrorterran 22
Sharp 10
Dota 2
Gorgc5762
qojqva4038
420jenkins1531
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Reynor80
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv7700
fl0m3788
ScreaM1194
sgares299
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor575
Liquid`Hasu475
Other Games
Happy365
oskar223
mouzStarbuck171
ArmadaUGS126
JuggernautJason13
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV39
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH177
• Gemini_19 90
• davetesta52
• iHatsuTV 10
• Reevou 9
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix12
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV888
League of Legends
• Jankos1589
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
18h 51m
OSC
1d 7h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.