[Patch 6.12] ARAM is Alive General Discussion - Page 2

On June 15 2016 04:51 Slayer91 wrote:
what the hell is snowball and what does it do?

On June 15 2016 05:00 Slusher wrote:
On the Kayle question, she's actually one of the champions I started trying more because Fizz is banned so much lately, but I eventually gave up on her, not because it wasn't strong, but because it didn't come online early enough for those games where my bot lane got butt blasted.

as far as these patch notes go, I'd have traded the qss "nerf" on ult for not getting these nerfs any day(although I don't think they are that related one just brought attention to the other). the REAL problem with tank Fizz was on him Furvor was op, his base damage like I've said before is pretty bad as it's taken several hits anymore, the reason why they hit the dot is because q and w are already 10 at rank 1so it was literally the only thing to hit.

I think keystones turned out to be pretty cool, but this goes back to the problem with original skirmisher there are a couple champs who make Furvor look ridiculous. In this case because Furvor sucks a fat dong on the ap build it's almost like the ww nerf before the skirmisher nerf instantaneously. I think Assassin Fizz was pretty strong on this patch so I shouldn't qq too much, but I DO think Furvor caused him to take a base damage hit which is pretty much already his worst quality.

hitbox change looks big on paper I wonder how many head scratching moments thats going to give me in the upcoming days. But earlier on the pbe the took away his ability to ignore minion collision so I'm just glad we got that back.


I also loathe the double edged sword change, the inherent strength of being ranged isn't penalized enough in this game as is.

On June 15 2016 06:33 iCanada wrote:


Its Lee Q on a summoner without the execute. Does no damage, like 5+3 per level or something silly small like that.



I mean, part of it is fervor, but a much larger part is just the % HP damage on W. I dunno, an AP assassin don't need that shit, all it does is make champs hit like a truck without damage items. Fervor isn't even that broken on Fizz, compared to how broken it is on like olaf.

I dunno why they keep putting it on champions, then being surprised when people build them tanky and kill everything. There must be a huge disconnect between the Champ design and champ balance sections of Riot, because Imo that shit is dumb.

"we didn't expect him to pop kids without offensive items." well then why did you make him do lots of damage without items? like wtf do they expect?

On June 15 2016 10:20 rebdomine wrote:
So if I haven't played since 6.5 or so, what are the major things I may have missed during this time?

I realized there was a mage update a while back that I still need to catch up on (as I primarily play mid), but what else have I missed?

On June 15 2016 10:28 MuddyJam wrote:


not really look at the champion changes and the mage item changes.
edit like what champs you play mid

On June 15 2016 10:36 JonGalt wrote:


Uhhh you should look into the rift herald changes and the dragon changes, those are pretty big. Make sure you read up on the new (and old) mage items. Things like zhona and abysal were changed (+cdr -dmg passives/actives changed a bit)