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[Patch 6.12] ARAM is Alive General Discussion - Page 9

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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 23 2016 03:05 GMT
#161
Just had an ARAM where I never died on Ezreal but only got an A+ because my damage was shit due to only having Tear/Boots. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 23 2016 10:29 GMT
#162
On June 23 2016 09:13 iCanada wrote:
Protobelt Elise is hilarious.

100 to 0'ing a 200 MR Tree with EQW>Belt>RWQ is about as beast as it gets. Cocoon makes landing that 800 magic damage shotgun blast retard proof.

Its also beast because it allows you to E people from like 50 range, and any retard can hit E from 50 range. Including me.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 07:55 nafta wrote:
On June 23 2016 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
ignite isn't as useful as you think
like with junglers and shit you lose a lot not being able to tp back t olane

its good on some champs who cant tp gank well anyway though

Honestly ignite is only good if your opponent is a retard. Which to be fair has a good chance of happening cuz soloq but still.

On June 23 2016 05:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 23 2016 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:
few renekton players have the strength of will to not always push the lane no matter what
im blessed by this fact

and yeah you dont need to watch videos to understand lane control
just use your brain mates

Have you seen any League of Legends games? l0l



What kind of soloqueue player sees his lane opponent has a combat summoner when he doesn't and then proceeds not to all in and die? They like mythical unicorns, don't exist.

Then in chat:
LOL
Fuck i woulda killed that noob if he didn't exhaust.
Unlucky.

I'm a unicorn! :D

When I'm not supporting "Always play like a wimp, never not play like a wimp" is my motto, not making plays is the easiest way to win sololanes.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 13:55:24
June 23 2016 13:55 GMT
#163
On June 23 2016 12:05 Gahlo wrote:
Just had an ARAM where I never died on Ezreal but only got an A+ because my damage was shit due to only having Tear/Boots. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.


gotta suicide into turrets git gud
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 23 2016 19:55 GMT
#164
On June 23 2016 22:55 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 12:05 Gahlo wrote:
Just had an ARAM where I never died on Ezreal but only got an A+ because my damage was shit due to only having Tear/Boots. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP.


gotta suicide into turrets git gud

Was trying to see how long I could go without dying.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 23 2016 20:20 GMT
#165
In this case the score was correct, not dying in ARAM is actually bad play.
Carrilord has arrived.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
June 24 2016 12:35 GMT
#166
On June 24 2016 05:20 Slusher wrote:
In this case the score was correct, not dying in ARAM is actually bad play.

top 3 ARAM skills

3. knowing how to play champions (and how to reroll) pre-6 and post-6
2. knowing how and when to die
1. making sure someone on the team has locket
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-24 12:46:53
June 24 2016 12:36 GMT
#167
Also, if you melee buy the minion execute gold item.

If you don't buy that shit you confirmed bad. Targons embrace sustain procs and wave clear is sooo good for 90% of melee champs pre-6 phase.

You don't need rerolls near as bad if you just buy the item. It also gives extra gold, so I don't get why people don't buy it. Dumb.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 24 2016 13:35 GMT
#168
I don't think Targons is that cut and dry. Pre-6 doesn't matter nearly as much as it used to because of the speed buff after respawning and the actual stats Targons gives without counting the gold generation are pretty garbage. The health gained with the execute is nice, but it also tends to be a trap because you're probably going to have to take damage to ever get it in the first place.

So unless your team's waveclear is utter trash, I'd rather just spend the money elsewhere 80% of the time. If anything I see too many people tunnel onto it when they desperately needs actual stats.

Although if you have good strong carries Face of the Mountain is never bad, so meh.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 24 2016 13:42 GMT
#169
targons is good if you'll build some sort of tankiness. assassin and fighter champs shouldnt.
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 24 2016 13:56 GMT
#170
No there are a lot of comps where you straight up need the execute. I don't think you build Targons on a Fighter, but IMO you should atleast be getting the Relic Shield and extra pots in lieu of one of your Doran's Items. 80 HP per minute is huge for a 350 HP item, especially when your champ personally doesn't want to fight early.

I think it depends more on skirmishing / waveclear. If you are Pantheon / Lee Sin you don't need. However if you are like Riven / Vi / Jax I think you want it because you are only fighting on those champs if your opponent fucks up real hard, otherwise you can't trade without fully commiting and probably dying because your engage sucks. So mean while you just getting poked and poked.

Its better to buy it and waste maybe 150 gold worth of stats than to not buy it and lack the waveclear / sustain. Even if your champ doesn't need it nothing else is near as good for the gold. 75 HP is worth what, 200 or so gold? I'd pay easily double 150 gold just for the execute / heal. It is that good. Straight up Spoils of War gives your team more healing than a potion every minute! if you don't die for 4 waves it pays for itself in potion sustain, and it gives you gold to pay for itself after just 5 waves.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
June 24 2016 14:54 GMT
#171
But you still have to auto minions, which exposes you to more damage than you would be facing otherwise more often than not. So if you care about surviving against poke, a refillable flask is arguably much better early on because you're not opening yourself up to more damage. 200 gold is a lot early when that's 2/3rds a cloth armor or about half a null magic mantle. Targon's is great sometimes, but it is not a "you must buy this with every melee champion" item.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 24 2016 15:49 GMT
#172
If you have melee champs and they don't, the other team probably has much more waveclear than you and you will be under your tower.

It is very much a must buy.

The gold you spend on the passive is only 150. Its 1/2 a cloth or 1/3 of a null magic. Legit Relic Shield gives you more eHP as a melee when you want to fight than if you bought anything else for 350 gold. Except maybe 5 potions.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 24 2016 16:24 GMT
#173
Honestly, all of the T1 support items should be bought in ARAMs.
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
June 24 2016 17:44 GMT
#174
Everyone start relic shield in ARAM, including adcs and mages, and you yell at them if they dont. You legit double the gold generated from creeps, save a ton of mana, push harder and the sustain really adds up when you have 5 members spam procing it.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 24 2016 18:03 GMT
#175
being the harder pushing team in the first few levels of aram is actually really meaningful, the tower chip can end up being very significant.
Carrilord has arrived.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
June 24 2016 22:06 GMT
#176
i legit cant remember the last time i played aram on purpose
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M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4116 Posts
June 25 2016 20:16 GMT
#177
how come shen is perma pick/ban in LCS again? he was not touched for months, if anything tank items/masteries were kind of nerfed and suddenly he is a top pick
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-25 20:42:29
June 25 2016 20:41 GMT
#178
He's not perma picked/banned, but he got some popularity for splitpush/pick comps, because his ult can be used for ambushes or to try and force dragons early since you don't need TP and don't commit if you ult down bot.
Also in protect the AD comps (such as the Jhin ones).

Seeing less full tanks and more bruisers top, pick junglers like Elise, and generally more emphasis on marksmen (not in a "camp their lane to get them ahead" sense and more a "keep them alive to do the job") is what made his utility useful again.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
General_Winter
Profile Joined February 2011
United States719 Posts
June 25 2016 21:45 GMT
#179
Recently saw skarner in a few LPL games. Casters didn't like it, but I do notice he has very high win rates in solo queue. Whats up with him and what makes him good right now?
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 25 2016 21:49 GMT
#180
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