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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-20 21:56:57
June 20 2016 21:39 GMT
#141
Yeah, he is pretty manageable right now. I think Tlords is better, even if you lose lane because of it, the extra gank power better imo. But you could be right that against Darius it the way to go. I'll try it out.

I just still have PTSD from release Darius whose bleed did like 40 magic damage over time from one auto / spell.

I'd still rather be shitting on a Fiora, or Fizz or something.

On June 21 2016 06:30 cLutZ wrote:
I like it. Also her surfing passive is cool.


Hell ya.

I like her a lot actually. Her combo still feels weird though.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 22 2016 12:17 GMT
#142
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 22 2016 14:24 GMT
#143
On June 22 2016 21:17 JimmiC wrote:
What is siege mode all about?

It's basically a mix of Black Market Brawlers and the escort mode in Overwatch.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 22 2016 14:34 GMT
#144
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 22 2016 14:47 GMT
#145
On June 22 2016 23:34 JimmiC wrote:
What's the escort mode?

Can't tell if serious or making a joke how nobody escorts the payload.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
June 22 2016 15:01 GMT
#146
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MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
June 22 2016 16:41 GMT
#147
at what elo do players understand basic minion wave control?
Running around in low plat and the number of junglers i'm seeing who screw over there top laner by pushing the lane is insane. This is only countered by most top laners also not know when it would be fine to freeze and instead will happy freeze the lane in front of your turret and get themselves ganked over and over.
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 17:15:21
June 22 2016 17:15 GMT
#148
On June 23 2016 01:41 MuddyJam wrote:
at what elo do players understand basic minion wave control?
Running around in low plat and the number of junglers i'm seeing who screw over there top laner by pushing the lane is insane. This is only countered by most top laners also not know when it would be fine to freeze and instead will happy freeze the lane in front of your turret and get themselves ganked over and over.

mid/high diamond on NA.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35147 Posts
June 22 2016 17:55 GMT
#149
On June 23 2016 02:15 Frolossus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 01:41 MuddyJam wrote:
at what elo do players understand basic minion wave control?
Running around in low plat and the number of junglers i'm seeing who screw over there top laner by pushing the lane is insane. This is only countered by most top laners also not know when it would be fine to freeze and instead will happy freeze the lane in front of your turret and get themselves ganked over and over.

mid/high diamond on NA.

That must explain why after two videos about it from SRO I was shitting on kids farmwise.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 22 2016 18:48 GMT
#150
People understand the concept lower than that, we just bad at it. LOL.

It is also tilting off the face of the earth when you go to reset a wave and a guy spam back pings you 30 times to stop farming his shit.

I dunno, to me its kind of like taking TP on a top laner. I think all top laners should be able to take ignite, and chances are if a guy takes ignite and can win his lane with it he is doing good things even if the other guy makes a good TP gank bot. But your average bot lane will legit tilt out of the game if you dick their top laner by 50 creeps and take their tower if he just TP's bot and gets a kill.

Half the time, having a lane bitch about tax or some shit after a gank is not worth properly reseting lanes after ganks and shit. Just plat things.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#151
ignite isn't as useful as you think
like with junglers and shit you lose a lot not being able to tp back t olane

its good on some champs who cant tp gank well anyway though
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
June 22 2016 18:51 GMT
#152
On June 23 2016 02:55 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 02:15 Frolossus wrote:
On June 23 2016 01:41 MuddyJam wrote:
at what elo do players understand basic minion wave control?
Running around in low plat and the number of junglers i'm seeing who screw over there top laner by pushing the lane is insane. This is only countered by most top laners also not know when it would be fine to freeze and instead will happy freeze the lane in front of your turret and get themselves ganked over and over.

mid/high diamond on NA.

That must explain why after two videos about it from SRO I was shitting on kids farmwise.

i'm convinced his videos are the only reason that anyone below mid masters even knows about it
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 22 2016 18:53 GMT
#153
whos SRO
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 22 2016 18:54 GMT
#154
Solo Renekton Only.

Challenger Renekton OTP on NA since S2.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 18:56:24
June 22 2016 18:55 GMT
#155
few renekton players have the strength of will to not always push the lane no matter what
im blessed by this fact

and yeah you dont need to watch videos to understand lane control
just use your brain mates
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 22 2016 20:50 GMT
#156
On June 23 2016 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:
few renekton players have the strength of will to not always push the lane no matter what
im blessed by this fact

and yeah you dont need to watch videos to understand lane control
just use your brain mates

Have you seen silver/gold elo games? l0l
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
June 22 2016 20:52 GMT
#157
no
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
June 22 2016 21:46 GMT
#158
You should spectate my games.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-22 22:56:17
June 22 2016 22:55 GMT
#159
On June 23 2016 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
ignite isn't as useful as you think
like with junglers and shit you lose a lot not being able to tp back t olane

its good on some champs who cant tp gank well anyway though

Honestly ignite is only good if your opponent is a retard. Which to be fair has a good chance of happening cuz soloq but still.

On June 23 2016 05:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:
few renekton players have the strength of will to not always push the lane no matter what
im blessed by this fact

and yeah you dont need to watch videos to understand lane control
just use your brain mates

Have you seen any League of Legends games? l0l

iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-06-23 00:27:23
June 23 2016 00:13 GMT
#160
Protobelt Elise is hilarious.

100 to 0'ing a 200 MR Tree with EQW>Belt>RWQ is about as beast as it gets. Cocoon makes landing that 800 magic damage shotgun blast retard proof.

Its also beast because it allows you to E people from like 50 range, and any retard can hit E from 50 range. Including me.

On June 23 2016 07:55 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 03:50 Slayer91 wrote:
ignite isn't as useful as you think
like with junglers and shit you lose a lot not being able to tp back t olane

its good on some champs who cant tp gank well anyway though

Honestly ignite is only good if your opponent is a retard. Which to be fair has a good chance of happening cuz soloq but still.

Show nested quote +
On June 23 2016 05:50 NeoIllusions wrote:
On June 23 2016 03:55 Slayer91 wrote:
few renekton players have the strength of will to not always push the lane no matter what
im blessed by this fact

and yeah you dont need to watch videos to understand lane control
just use your brain mates

Have you seen any League of Legends games? l0l



What kind of soloqueue player sees his lane opponent has a combat summoner when he doesn't and then proceeds not to all in and die? They like mythical unicorns, don't exist.

Then in chat:
LOL
Fuck i woulda killed that noob if he didn't exhaust.
Unlucky.
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