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Alaric
France45622 Posts
"Increasing Zed's W range means it takes longer to reach its point so it's a nerf and it makes it harder to use." How entitled are people wtf? It's a buff, you think it's slow, just don't cast it at max range. Being able to QW and still cast the shuriken from the shadow's point of arrival was a bug and you're upset that it got fixed? Just ask Caitlyn players. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 16 2015 03:04 Alaric wrote: The top-voted comment on Reddit regarding "don't buff Zed, revert his nerfs" (with idiotic things in the op about "Riot always nerf Zed when exterior things nerf him" like blaming them for a minor nerf of his right before the tank meta, as if that could be anticipated an dictated, or whining about BotRK gaining AS when it actually made him even stronger) says, in substance: "Increasing Zed's W range means it takes longer to reach its point so it's a nerf and it makes it harder to use." How entitled are people wtf? It's a buff, you think it's slow, just don't cast it at max range. Being able to QW and still cast the shuriken from the shadow's point of arrival was a bug and you're upset that it got fixed? Just ask Caitlyn players. They are right that Zed got touched by nerfs he never deserved, and has been made (previously) into a much less fun and twitchy character. Fine with me because I don't like Zed's existence in the Meta, but they are certainly correct that this change does not restore his lost "zedness". | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On November 16 2015 03:04 Alaric wrote: The top-voted comment on Reddit regarding "don't buff Zed, revert his nerfs" (with idiotic things in the op about "Riot always nerf Zed when exterior things nerf him" like blaming them for a minor nerf of his right before the tank meta, as if that could be anticipated an dictated, or whining about BotRK gaining AS when it actually made him even stronger) says, in substance: "Increasing Zed's W range means it takes longer to reach its point so it's a nerf and it makes it harder to use." How entitled are people wtf? It's a buff, you think it's slow, just don't cast it at max range. Being able to QW and still cast the shuriken from the shadow's point of arrival was a bug and you're upset that it got fixed? Just ask Caitlyn players. It feels better to play when bugged, it's not about entitlement. | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Q is a 900 range skillshot that can be extended to 1500 by using W with it. It allows you to basically fire a skillshot from 300 range away from your opponent, while sitting at 900 range from him. If it's feasible instantly Zed's QW was stupidly hard to dodge unless you were near its max (post-W) range. It's not about the ability being hard to use, it's about the ability being unfairly hard to dodge because of the bug. Sure, let me fire Viktor's laser from up 700 range instead of 550, it'll be much harder for my opponents to dodge it at max range. And because I'm a Viktor player, I'll call it a "feature" and if you fix it I'll complain that the ability is now clunky and it doesn't feel good anymore to play Viktor. I find it silly to complain that you can't execute harass and stuff without regard to timing or aim because of that bug, and then complain when Zed gets nerfed because of it, or when they claim that he's some super high skill cap champ (while true, it has no bearing on his skill floor, which is what the bug affected). | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On November 16 2015 03:35 Caiada wrote: Comments from mains can almost always be safely disregarded. When it comes to overall power level, yes, design choices its 50/50. Xerath and Ryze mains were mostly right, Viktor mains not really, but not terribly wrong, fiora mains totally wrong, and Leblanc players have a ridiculous record calling out bad design. Like I said, Zed shouldn't exist, but if he does, it should be for faker and febiven, so I never need to deal with him, not the opposite. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Also zed is supposed to win lane. If he can't do that why would you ever pick him? He isn't exactly a lategame scaler or w/e. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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kongoline
6318 Posts
On November 16 2015 04:53 Osmoses wrote: Comes down to whether the opponents are casters or autoattackers I think. why is that relevant you are building it late so it wont help u in lane and in team fights enemy renekton or riven shouldn't be focusing you anyway, i usually built thornmail but more i play with it since the nerfs more im convinced dmg it does is negligible and now that it costs even more i have hard time justifying it over fh | ||
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Caiada
United States3052 Posts
Guidelines. Use your best judgment. Both have a lot of conditional value. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
50 HP is nice, but I'm more talking about adcs having more crit, and the arpen changes disproportionately hitting FH and Thornmail more than randuin and DMP. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
First clear was a bit harsh, even with 3 pots, I ended up half HP after red. Other than that smooth sailing once I had the talisman for the mana and a few levels, but damn, the price for the "upgraded" jungle item really makes itself felt if your first clear isn't good. Azir is still as brainless as ever, and Vi... still as bugged. This time I ulted him, making me cc immune, he casted his ult right before I reached him as soon as I went into the air (for the uppercut then slam animation) I was knocked away by his wall. Well, add that to the list I guess. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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Kaethis
Netherlands112 Posts
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JJMC
Portugal83 Posts
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
On November 16 2015 23:47 JJMC wrote: Are there even inhouses in League? Those look unbalanced as all hell from my experience in costum games before. yes and yes TL used to run some weekly | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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